Darren Ciantar

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. [00:00:03] Speaker B: You are listening to IPL radio. [00:00:08] Speaker C: All right. And we are back to the Perth property Bros. With Josh and Carlos. [00:00:13] Speaker B: With Carlos and Josh. [00:00:16] Speaker C: How are you back? [00:00:17] Speaker B: How are you Josh? [00:00:18] Speaker C: Yeah, good, thank you. It's a rather busy week, wasn't it? [00:00:22] Speaker B: Another busy week. [00:00:23] Speaker C: How was yours? How, how did you go this week? [00:00:27] Speaker B: Look, I'm non stop main all the time. I'm either doing appraisals at the moment. I think we've been talking about an estate, a land estate that I'm listed for sale and so that was most of today. I'll work, work on that into the night. There's just, there's a lot of paperwork to be done of course in the background. It has to be done right this, at this level it's sort of paperwork I wouldn't trust to give to a PA or a third party because it's. This is, this is important stuff and there's so many lots I have to do all the paperwork for each individual lot. So that's been keeping me busy. Some great appraisals, some commercial work. I'm, I'm working on commercial property and Safety Bay which you enjoy working on so you know, keeping busy mate. What about yourself? [00:01:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Are we still looking for a buyer for that? [00:01:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we are. [00:01:14] Speaker C: Yeah. Look at that. [00:01:14] Speaker B: We are. [00:01:15] Speaker C: Anyone listening who would like to buy. [00:01:16] Speaker B: In Safety Bay an incredible commercial property. [00:01:19] Speaker C: Exactly. There you go. Yeah, myself busy as well. Obviously we went under contract for one that we spoke about so just handling the day to day with that one and we just put in an offer in Morley as well. This is for a client from Sydney, the one that you referred on. [00:01:36] Speaker B: We look after each other. [00:01:37] Speaker C: Yes. Unfortunately we missed out on that but lucky that he took the advice as well. [00:01:42] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Which is good because in that situation you've got. Somebody's contacted me and asked me hey look, I want to buy something and well if I don't have the stock, well we still want to look after this guy so we are referring on to you and you've been able to look after him. [00:02:01] Speaker C: Very thankful. Yeah, that was good. So we actually missed out on the property so we are now going into a full service so I'm going to actually find him some something at the moment. So it's really good. It was a very nice property actually that one in Mali that we saw, it was fully renovated. It looks really new. It's all, you know, all sparkly and all that. You know, about 30 odd people walking into that property. So I turned up at the property. And there was like already five cars parked outside. Five, six cars parked outside. People already standing in the moment. The agent rocked up. Everyone just zoomed straight into the house. Eddie was so crowded in there. And I felt so awkward taking videos because everywhere you turn it's like people, you know, walking in and out and you can't really take videos with people's faces in it, you know what I mean? [00:02:42] Speaker B: But we're already starting to see signs of increased buyer confidence, interest rate drop. It's imminent that we're going to have at least several more coming up. I know of a property I was going to lease. It was with another agent and that other agent hadn't sold it for about nine months. So the seller came to me and said, hey, can you, can you look after this property? Can you do it? Knowing the time frame and what's coming, I thought, yeah, I'm pretty confident. And sure enough, over the weekend, two offers came in after hardly anything in the last month. So that's, that's a bit of a turnaround on that one. It has investor, which I thought was another interesting point. [00:03:19] Speaker C: It is. And in fact, I was even just talking to another buyer's agent on my way in. A lot more people from over east are coming back into wa, so there's a lot more activity there. And I actually just looked up some stats today. So property listed for sale. So this week there's about 4546 properties. Four weeks ago was 4700 properties. So still not a lot of stock. Right? Properties sold this week. A thousand properties. Properties sold four weeks ago. 547. What does that say? [00:03:54] Speaker B: 147. [00:03:55] Speaker C: That's double. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:03:58] Speaker C: You know, same week last year, 934. So not a lot of properties, but also doubled in sales. [00:04:04] Speaker B: I'll be very interested to see the stat by the end of July. And because this data does take time to filter through, even when we're looking at comparable sales data for our CMAs, we're looking at settlements that have been cooking for a couple of months. So it does take time for this information to filter through. [00:04:23] Speaker C: Yeah, so, yeah, so other data, if you look at it, so houses for Sale was about 2,800. Units for sale was about 1,000. Land was 600. Property actually sold. Houses were 746, units was 202. So it's showing that there's still lots of units out for sale at the moment. And then the other thing, have a look at this. So Perth median price, obviously it's at 775. Okay. Rental is about 680 per week. Units are about 528,000 rentals, about 650 per week. So guess why. A lot of people are going to units at the moment. [00:05:04] Speaker B: But that's moved up a bit because looking at the stats going about four or five months ago, your, your rentals were sort of topping out at about the 600 mark. Anything over 600 wasn't seeing very much activity. And already we're seeing they're starting to edge towards 700 mark. [00:05:21] Speaker C: It is, it is a lot of the areas. In fact, even the other day I was just appraising, I was doing this research for a client of mine in Morley. I always bring up Morley because that's where I'm working at at the moment. I have a few clients looking in that area. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Even that client that I sent to you, he was operating, wanting to operate in Mali. [00:05:38] Speaker C: Exactly. So we had a property that we saw, it was posted up for 950 for that sale. And. And he was like. I was like, bro, this is going to go in the millions. And he's like, no, the agent has put 950. I was like, yeah, that's the way of bringing in buyers. Right. And finally I was like, look, this will go for more than a million. And sure enough, it actually went for more than a million. [00:06:04] Speaker B: How much more? [00:06:05] Speaker C: So we put in for 1.01 or 1.02 mil. [00:06:12] Speaker B: 1.02. [00:06:13] Speaker C: 1.02. And we still didn't get it. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Still didn't get it. [00:06:18] Speaker C: Still didn't get it. So. So what I saw in Morley, if it's a brand new house, like just built all the speak and span, even though it's not a subdivided block, it was going between 1.1 and 1.3 mil. That's in Morley. All right. Now a subdividable block that I was looking at from two months ago. It's already started then. It was selling at 1.03 to now 1.1 mil. So it's. It's already in the million dollar mark. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Wow. I had a look at a whopper on Friday, which I thought was an interesting one. It's a very big block over 800, 860, I think. And that can be subdivided on a whole corner. Big five, six bedroom house on it. It's an older house, but where about so much room around it in Willerton. [00:07:06] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Near you. [00:07:07] Speaker C: Nice. Nice. [00:07:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:09] Speaker C: That would be snapped up really quick, especially if it's in the Willerton school zone. [00:07:13] Speaker B: I think so. But, you know, with the steps, sort of you talking about the price points, it makes us pretty confident that we might be well in. Well on the right money above 1.25. [00:07:25] Speaker C: That's the thing. Right. Like Willerton has been around for a long time. It's very established. That's sort of the price range it's been sitting at for a while, Molly, is something new. It's just coming up and it's really driven up the price in. In that short span of time. [00:07:39] Speaker B: How interesting. [00:07:40] Speaker C: It has. [00:07:40] Speaker B: But Molly, pretty. Well, everything's subdividable in Mali, isn't it, because of this? Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker C: So everything in Molly, if you look at it, if it's subdivided, is R25. So R25 means 350 square meters minimum. So you can, as long as you got 700 or more, you can subdivide the blocks. So pretty much all our older types, and that's why a lot of them are buying it up in Morley, because obviously it's still close to the city, still a good location. You know, it's. It's bordering Dianella, Hamilton, Bedford, you know, those sort of areas are all. [00:08:13] Speaker B: And it's old planning, isn't it? We've talked about this. The oldest sort of planning designs for estates was for bigger lots, you know, 7, 800, around the thousand mark. In Safety Bay. Yeah, Safety Bay, Rockingham. You're seeing these big lots and so new developments are coming in as small as, what, 180, 220. [00:08:32] Speaker C: Yep. [00:08:33] Speaker B: You know. [00:08:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:34] Speaker B: It's just a very different way to build houses. I know that. It is more efficient. When you look at the estates up in, say, Butler, Alkamos, Eglinton, you. You even find them down in Port Kennedy, where it's just a specific plan and you've got the. The front. All of the houses are fronted front, fronting the first street. Then in the middle, in the back, you've got the back laneway. That's where the truck comes in to pick up the bins. It's where everybody's garage is in. So it's just a laneway of garages. And then on the other side of the next row of houses, you've got all of their frontages. So it's quite an efficient way to build an estate. You know, you're cramming them in like sardines. But it does make a lot of sense. [00:09:12] Speaker C: It does. [00:09:13] Speaker B: People don't have the. The big blocks of land to mow and maintain. But in terms of planning, I, I quite like it. [00:09:21] Speaker C: I was up in Jindali on Saturday. [00:09:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. [00:09:26] Speaker C: It's a big drive up there. But yes, you're right, it's still the, you know, still small blocks. Reasonable 220s. Yeah. So very nice suburbs. Very nice. Larger blocks as well in certain areas. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:09:41] Speaker C: But my friend had a very nice one where you step out and you see the beautiful ocean. It's a really nice place. And they've done really nice work for kids as well, you know, the parks and all that. Because nowadays, obviously, I've got kids. So everywhere I go, the first thing I see is kids like the parks and the playgrounds and, you know, and they did amazing work in that suburb. [00:10:02] Speaker B: It's very, very well planned, very beautiful. Parks are great. It's a whole different view of the ocean from up there because those estates, Jindy, Jindali, up to Alkamosa, all the way up to the Anchor, you'll notice that the elevation is a bit higher. It's much higher. [00:10:17] Speaker C: Yes. [00:10:17] Speaker B: Than Rockingham. So you're actually on dunes and the dunes sort of undulate away from the coast. So whenever you're looking at the coast, the ocean looks completely different and the wind comes in completely differently. I quite like it up there. [00:10:31] Speaker C: It's beautiful. [00:10:32] Speaker B: They've planned those estates beautifully. Well to. To look. Look down over the. The coast and it's. It's edging forward, I think. Would. What would you be tipping? Maybe 20 to maybe 30 years. Yanchip and Two Rocks will join, potentially. That's the way it's going. [00:10:52] Speaker C: It looks like it, yeah. In fact, even. Is it Durian Bay? That's really crazy at the moment with sales. [00:11:00] Speaker B: Is it really? [00:11:01] Speaker C: Yeah, it's Jurian Bay. It's a fair way up. So that's what I'm saying. So that's also. There's a lot of activity up there. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Geez, they want to upgrade that bloody highway all the way up to. To Durian Bay, Lancelin. It's not a very nice drive and. [00:11:15] Speaker C: Not a nice drive, but, you know, eventually, I think if the PR waters area is anything to show, you know, they really populate that area and then finally they decide to do the highways. You know, our planning is not as good as it used to. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Yeah. The march of development is sort of following the coast on that northern strip, say from Clarkson to the north, because there's reserve on the other side of the highway that's heading up to Yanchep. So it's quite beautiful land reserve Areas but there isn't anywhere for them to go other than up following those dunes. So it's going to be an interesting, you know, 30 to 50 years I talk about it, I'm going to, I'm going to be an old man saying, years ago I used to sell real estate in Perth and I told you this would happen. [00:12:02] Speaker C: But funny enough, that's always how Perth operates. Right. We're the longest state, isn't it? [00:12:07] Speaker B: Longest city. [00:12:08] Speaker C: Yeah. So it's not, it's what you're saying will eventually happen anyway because that's the way we are kind of projecting. We're always along the coast. [00:12:16] Speaker B: Inevitable. You know what I'd love to see? I'd love to see the train line built to Dawesville. [00:12:21] Speaker C: Yes. [00:12:21] Speaker B: At the moment it stops in Mandurah but you know, It's a good 45 minute drive. If you're going to go say from Mandra down to Doorsville, it can be a bit of a drive, 30, 30, 40 minutes depending on traffic. [00:12:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:34] Speaker B: But it's just a huge distance where there isn't any access to, to trains. It's just, just buses I think. [00:12:41] Speaker C: I mean like the train line just recently extended all the way to Butler. [00:12:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:46] Speaker C: Right. Like I was driving, I was obviously I was driving all the way up. So such a nice, like I said, it's a nice drive. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Chips the top. Yeah. [00:12:52] Speaker C: It's going all the way up. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:12:54] Speaker C: So it goes that way. It should also head down eventually. So I think as the population starts growing and moving in that direction. Yes. [00:13:02] Speaker B: You know what is a big sign when you've got major future development planned, you're looking at where the shopping centers are, what shops are coming in, what services are coming in. But in particular what I noticed in Butler, when you take away, take come off the freeway, that's the first thing you see. The biggest, baddest building in Butler is a big storage complex. [00:13:22] Speaker C: Yes, it was, it's a two, two. [00:13:25] Speaker B: I think almost three story storage complex. [00:13:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:28] Speaker B: Followed by a second one on the other side. [00:13:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:31] Speaker B: So you know that they're planning for big things in that area. [00:13:34] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%. I was very impressed, very impressed when I went to the area. I thought it was, I thought I was going into this very new estate with not a lot happening. I was, I was blown away. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:47] Speaker C: Wow. [00:13:47] Speaker B: It's. There's a shopping center within about 5km heading north, heading south is going to be another center. Another center. Eventually, I think over time that there where Butler, Butler in particular seems to be the center of commerce up there will eventually become something like Joondalup. Yeah, I'm talking 30 years ahead. But it's where, where development's pushing and we've got so much land to the south. Come to the south of Perth, south of the river. We've got so much land between what, Rockingham and Byford? [00:14:18] Speaker C: Yes. [00:14:18] Speaker B: All the way down to Serpentine, even North Dandela. There's so much land. We just need the developers to come in to open it all up and get it all developed. [00:14:30] Speaker C: Possibly helping developer. Remember I mentioned that one? So we'll be looking for big land so hopefully we'll be able to find something in those areas and then we can move it. There you go. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Very good. [00:14:41] Speaker C: All right. Anyway, we're going to a bit of a break. You're listening to the Property Bros with Carlos and Josh. [00:14:48] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio. [00:14:56] Speaker C: And we're back with the Perth Property Bros. Carlos and Josh. All right, I'll give you that. [00:15:03] Speaker B: Josh, good on you, mate. Putting 14 songs on. Did you run out of property things to say or something? [00:15:11] Speaker C: Oh, wow. I find it funny how you turned that on me. [00:15:19] Speaker B: People tuned to learn about property and you're putting 14 songs on. [00:15:22] Speaker C: Oh, wow. I'll remember that. So Dallas, Carlos, again, we touched on a little bit earlier about buyer confidence coming back into the market. Yeah, let's talk a little bit about that one. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Well, we've, we mentioned it a few, a few times over the last couple of weeks. I think it's going to be an interesting time. Coming up ahead. I think it's going to really tighten up again as in the listings. What have we got? 4 and a half thousand at the moment. I think those numbers could drop again significantly. Yeah, we've already got a lot of people out there. Owner looking to be owner occupiers. Tight stock as it is in general for the amount of buyers and especially if investors come back in because of the interest rate drop, I think we could be in for a very tight end of 25. [00:16:12] Speaker C: But don't you feel like sellers would also start putting gas on the market? [00:16:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So initially what I imagine would start to happen is the, the stock on market will, will start to go. [00:16:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:22] Speaker B: Which is expected. And anything else that comes on like it's happened in the last previous waves, anything that comes on sales quickly, this is where you start to get the cars backing up the streets and people trying to get in quickly. But that's got to clear up as well. And Then after that, this is where I think it'll be. Become tight again. It really reveals a sales agent too, because, you know, you have to find these easy enough to sell them, but you've got to find them even for your clients. You know, you. You can buy them, but what are you going to buy? It gets tight again. [00:16:55] Speaker C: It is. [00:16:56] Speaker B: None of us have a crystal ball. It's just with the factors lining up. [00:16:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:59] Speaker B: And previous experience in this market, I'm tipping that we're going to be in for a tight year, financial year. [00:17:07] Speaker C: It'll be a good, good thing for us to maybe go out on the road and start talking to people. Don't you think, Carlos? [00:17:14] Speaker B: I think so. [00:17:14] Speaker C: You think maybe one of our segments, we could be on the roadside somewhere in Safety Bay or in Rockingham itself, and start asking questions like, what do you think about the stock market? Are you buying? Are you selling? You know, and what do you. What's the. What's it feel like? You know, the kind of thing. I think it'll be a nice interactive show with the audience. [00:17:33] Speaker B: I think it's. That's going to be a lot of fun. [00:17:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:35] Speaker B: You know, I think we can get sort of candid responses from people. [00:17:37] Speaker C: Yeah. What do the audience think? Maybe we'll see one of our show. We'll do that. [00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, even home opens, if we. We attend homeopath of other agents, even our own. You can come to mine. There's people there. There's people there. They've got a story. They've got a. They've got a story to tell, you know, because they, They've missed out on properties, you know, they're. They're in the market, they're on the ground, like, right on the. They can tell us exactly what's going on. [00:18:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:07] Speaker B: You know. [00:18:07] Speaker C: Yeah, No, I think that's great. I think maybe we'll do that. One of. Yeah, maybe one or two of your home opens. We'll just come over there and then we'll put the mic out and see who would like to chat. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I know we can talk Perth property, but I'm interested. I've been looking forward to today's show for several weeks, actually, because we're going to be talking Melbourne property. [00:18:25] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. Tell us who's on the. Who's on board this. [00:18:28] Speaker B: Oh, Big bad Darren. He's a very, very good friend of mine. He's a patron. Patron and massive supporter of the Mr. Perfect barbecues that we run. [00:18:38] Speaker D: Yes. [00:18:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's from Melbourne, so he knows Melbourne Suburbs very well. Every time we've spoken about Melbourne because he's from there, he knows them very well and we start to draw comparisons. See, this is how we got started about bringing him on the show. Drawing comparison to Perth, what it's like over there, how it's different over here. And when he arrived from Melbourne, what he noticed and I was in Melbourne of course, over the holidays, which we spoke about and I noticed enormous differences. [00:19:09] Speaker C: Yes. [00:19:10] Speaker B: You know, so it's going to be a very interesting show today. [00:19:13] Speaker C: I think it will be. I think it'd be interesting to hear from Darren and also I think he's got his own radio show on IPL Radio as well. So it'd be a good one to have a chat with him about Talking Talk. Talking Talk. [00:19:24] Speaker B: What a name. [00:19:26] Speaker C: And we came up with the Perth Property Bros. [00:19:29] Speaker B: I think he's got a better name name than us. Yeah. [00:19:32] Speaker C: Talking with Perth Property bro. [00:19:34] Speaker B: But no, he runs. He's running the. The property. Sorry, the. The Talking talk Talking talk Talking Talking Talk talk show because he's the. The founder of the XK XL XMXP Falcons of WA Incorporated Club and there are Falcons from 1960 to 1966. Very, very niche car club. But from, from last, last conversation, I think he had over 2000 members or something. [00:20:04] Speaker C: Wow. Interesting. Yeah, that'd be good to hear from Big Bad Darren. Did you see Big Bad Day? Nice Darren. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Actually, if you listen back on the podcast and the shows, you'll actually hear me referring to Darren because he's a massive supporter of the show. [00:20:20] Speaker C: Yes. [00:20:20] Speaker B: And when we've had our guests on, he. He asked some questions that we pass on, of course. So yeah, Darren from Safety Bay, when I say yes, he's going to be in the show, on the show with us very shortly. [00:20:31] Speaker C: Yeah, very good. All right, so tell us. Let's bring it back to property in a bit. Like I said, we're thinking of heading off to your home opens. Maybe we'll have a chat with some of the buyers in there and see what's happening. Exactly what's happening on the market. Like what some of the challenges they're facing or what's. What do they think would happen with the per property market? It'd be nice to see what's actually being said outside, then it's just guessing what's actually being. What's actually happening. [00:21:01] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get some audio and it actually might even be good to try to get some video somehow. I'll have a chat to our producer to see if we can Tie that in. Yeah, because I know that they're recording these, these sessions and streaming them or putting them as podcasts. So it'd be good to sort of cut in the footage. You know, people are happy to, to be on there. Good to have these chats. But even you, Josh, I mean, you. I have my home opens, you know, but you actually go to the home opens of many other agents because you're actually out hunting for property. [00:21:33] Speaker C: Yep. [00:21:34] Speaker B: So and in different areas too. So it'd be really interesting to see if you can get those agents on board. [00:21:40] Speaker C: Yes, that's the hard part. [00:21:41] Speaker B: You can get them onto the show. [00:21:43] Speaker C: Yeah, they'll be on the cards 100. So I think it'd be good to actually have like suburb specialist agents as well, so they can talk about what's happening in their specific suburbs. [00:21:54] Speaker B: I can think of a couple. [00:21:55] Speaker C: Yeah. So I think that'd be a good one. Like. Like how we had Michelle from Fremantle Core previously. [00:22:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:02] Speaker C: So it's really good. So it's talking all about what's happening in Fremantle. So it'd be nice to have someone up north, north of the river this time and have a bit of a. What's happening in that area. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I have a very good friend, she owns a real estate agency in Joondalup. [00:22:18] Speaker C: Okay. [00:22:19] Speaker B: She's been around for a very long time, so she might be actually a good one to, to have on the show. Or maybe we can sort of do a call in. [00:22:27] Speaker C: Yeah, sure. [00:22:28] Speaker B: And look, if I start to think about it, we're connected to a lot of agents and agencies, so. Well, why not Josh? [00:22:34] Speaker C: Let's do it 100%. So Carlos, as we mentioned earlier, obviously with the first rate cuts last week we already saw the numbers has changed dramatically, isn't it? Now if this happened again next month and the following month, how do we see us going? [00:22:51] Speaker B: Yeah, like I said, I think the stock will just become more competitive. Whatever stock's available. [00:22:56] Speaker C: Correct. [00:22:56] Speaker B: That four and a half might drop to under three relatively quickly. What do you think? [00:23:03] Speaker C: This is what I think as well. I mean, end of the day demand is still super high. There's still a very low supply. You know, there's not a lot of house being completed as quick as well. Obviously we're still very under supplied in terms of where we need to be and where we're at. There's only one way I see it going. [00:23:24] Speaker B: It's going to be AN Interesting, interesting 12 to 18 months, I think. [00:23:28] Speaker C: Correct, correct. I mean there's lots of things that we look at obviously as a bias agent. When I look at a price property, we look at, you know, social housing. We look at, there's one property that one of my client was looking at and we were looking at that property and you're saying, oh, I like it because it's for this advice like, yes, but you've got still other things. Like, you know, there's lots of social housing around the area. There's lots of fundamentals that doesn't align if you want to invest in the property. So my, the way I, I said is, okay, that's fine. Now that we've got 4000 properties on the market now in WA, what happens when it changes back to what it was? So now we've got 15,000 properties back on the market, right? [00:24:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:11] Speaker C: Now how would you look at this as an investment property is what I was trying to say. So it's probably best if it is just that we try not to. We still have to look at the fundamentals when we invest. We can't just be investing just because this is the, this is the only available property. Things will change. So we still need to stick and invest properly is what I'm trying to say. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Exactly. Right now I completely agree with you, mate. And you know what, when you're talking about you looking at buying properties, I'd love to unpack your buyer's agent process because we've been through mine. As a sales agent, I've discussed the sort of stages that I go through. It's the pre sale prep, then we're looking at going into the best possible marketing campaign that leads into the negotiation process that ultimately leads into settlement. Four stages we sort of work through. But as a buyer's agent, I'm actually very curious to see if you've spelt out that recipe for yourself. What process do you follow? Even with a client I've just referred to you, he's giving you a brief, what's your process? [00:25:18] Speaker C: So it always starts out with that conversation with that client. Right. The first initial conversation is all about whether their brief is realistic. Only once it's realistic, then we go into a formal, like an hour long conversation where we deep dive into their strategy. And then to really understand where is it or what is it that they want to do, what is it that they want to achieve? If it's subdivision or is it, you know, or just as simple as buy to rent, that's a strategy in itself. Or, you know, if apartment, if they just want to chase yields, that's an apartment apartment. Right. [00:25:55] Speaker B: Or A dual key or a dual. Dual occupancy. Dual. [00:25:58] Speaker C: Correct. [00:25:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:00] Speaker C: So we work out the strategy and then we go on. Once we have secured that, then we go on to look for it on the market. So everyone, as you can imagine, is going to be different. It's not. Not. There's no two exactly the same. Everyone's very different. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Yes, I can imagine. So every. Every client's gonna have a different brief. But so it's. I'm already seeing a bit of a funnel which starting to. To write things up on the board, start to work out what the details are and breaking it down. [00:26:28] Speaker C: Correct. [00:26:28] Speaker B: To what's going to become realistic. [00:26:29] Speaker C: Correct. So we've got a budget, we've got a strategy, and then we go on to look for that. So obviously then once that's all done, then we start sourcing the property. Obviously, that's where we start scouring the realestate.com domain, Facebook, cold calling agents and even calling agents and asking, don't cold call me. [00:26:51] Speaker B: Do not cold call me, Josh. [00:26:54] Speaker C: Well, if you've got a solid buyer, why not? [00:26:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, there you go. I only deal with buyer's agents. I know, like, and trust. [00:27:01] Speaker C: Yeah. So, I mean, we have to find ways of finding the property. Right. Sourcing the property. So even there's one that I'm going through an exercise where I'm actually going into call logic and actually filtering out the houses that I actually did need to door knock on. [00:27:15] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because it tells you unoccupied, which has got tenancy. Occupancy. [00:27:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Like. Like we were looking at the Gosnell's LGA, right. There was like 31, 000 houses. [00:27:29] Speaker B: Of those 31, half of them may say, I don't know, just being general here. [00:27:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:33] Speaker B: Half of them may be unoccupied. [00:27:36] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:27:36] Speaker B: So you're down to 15 and a half. [00:27:38] Speaker C: So there's 70% owner occupied. [00:27:40] Speaker B: So that was 70. [00:27:42] Speaker C: 70%. So then after that, we obviously we put the filter. So we needed a subdivision. So I put thousand square meters. That brought it down some more. Then I put minimum three houses, probably dumb some more. So we kept going down until I had 60 houses to work with from 31,000. [00:28:02] Speaker B: So you only have to target the 60. [00:28:03] Speaker C: So target the 60. And then again then being more specific, like we wanted it to be close to the train station or we wanted it, you know, certain things. Then after that, I'm looking at it as a whole and then just honing in on the fuel. And then after that, looking into it to seeing whether it will work or will not work. You know, that kind of thing. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Isn't that amazing? Yeah. [00:28:22] Speaker C: So that's, that's part of the sourcing. That's what it means by, you know, that's why it's very important to have a very clear strategy and the budget. [00:28:31] Speaker B: So you're, you're refining, refining, refining the numbers. [00:28:36] Speaker C: So anyway, that's the sourcing part of it. So once we have, obviously we've identified the property, then it's the negotiation portion of it. So that's where we actually have that chat with the agent. The agent. We do the due diligence, obviously. So we are contacting like just before coming here to rush and call Armadillo Council to ask for information. And sometimes frustrating because they will only divulge the information if, if you are the owner of the property. Right. So there's only limited things that you can ask. So obviously it was very important to ask what's the zoning, what's the prospect in the area? What's going to happen? What can I do on this block? What can and can I not do on this block? You know, that kind of thing. Yeah. So that's all the due diligence part of it. So to know whether that's the right property, what can we get out of it? What's the possible, what's the potential rental that we could get out of it, what's the social housing situation around the area? Is that street good? You know, the kind of thing, if. [00:29:31] Speaker B: The brief, whether it's good or bad, I mean, I guess you would identify that and just tell your buyer. [00:29:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:37] Speaker B: To say, just so you know, this is what I uncovered. [00:29:41] Speaker C: So obviously we don't want to just keep giving them that information unless it fits the brief. Then I go back to them and it's like, all right, I found this, this, this, that fits the brief. And then I'm bringing back that information. So I don't just bombard them with too much things as well. [00:29:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Good to know, you know. Oh, very interested to know what your process is, you know. [00:30:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:02] Speaker B: If I wanted to buy a three bedroom house. No. Say a four bedroom house in Safety Bay with a pool. Must have a pool and be a brick and tile. You would follow that same process to refine the market numbers down to a group of houses that are four bedroom brick and tile with a pool. [00:30:21] Speaker C: Correct. [00:30:22] Speaker B: And then we would work out who wants to sell. [00:30:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:26] Speaker B: And of those people who that want to sell, then as the buyer, I would choose which house I want. [00:30:31] Speaker C: Yep, exactly. [00:30:34] Speaker B: Sounds like a simple process, but it's hardly that. [00:30:38] Speaker C: So, yeah, obviously you've got that sourcing part of it. So that's one. Then you've got the due diligence we just spoke about, you know, making sure that it's actually feasible to get into, and then you've got the negotiation part of it. So this is where we actually sit down with it, the seller or the agent, and we go through the contract, we go through the price, make sure we've got a good deal, and we work it out. And once we have come to an agreement, obviously, then we go into contract, and for whatever reason, say we lost that, we go back to square one, start again. And we start again. So it's like the way I draw it in the diagram when I lay it out to my client is, so obviously we sign up here, then there's a big circle here, right, that goes in the loop. So you've got the sourcing, due diligence and negotiation. Yeah, because for anytime, say we found a property, we go through that loop, it falls through, we go back to the loop again, we have to start again. Yes. And it keeps going until we find something that suits and we go into contract, and then we go all the. [00:31:39] Speaker B: Way to settlement and we hit the mark. Isn't that amazing? Oh, there's. There's a lot more to this. [00:31:44] Speaker C: There's a lot more to this. [00:31:45] Speaker B: And I'm going to spend some more time, you know, in coming weeks, really unpacking how you work as a buyer's agent, just because, you know, I even spend a lot of my time when I'm referring to you, you know, helping people understand what makes you so valuable. You know, in my opinion, it's anybody that values their time, they can put a dollar figure on their time. That can stack up to be an enormous amount of money for how many hours they're working on a real estate search during any given week. To me, it makes so much sense to give up, give it to a buyer's agent like yourself to save them money, because you're saving them time. I find that very interesting. And I was only reflecting the other day on that job you did for me in Rockingham, when I think it was reminded, because I looked at our podcast that we did your. Your first episode, I think it was on 19 September last year, where I sent you a client that wanted to buy in a. In a specific building. On a specific floor. [00:32:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker B: On a specific corner of that floor. [00:32:51] Speaker C: Facing a certain way, facing a A specific direction. Yeah. [00:32:56] Speaker B: And you know. Yeah. So, you know, we look through all of the. [00:33:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:00] Speaker B: The owner's names, find the numbers and you actually successfully found a seller. [00:33:05] Speaker C: I did, yeah. I sent you the photo of the letters that I wrote to each one, isn't it? Yeah, you did, yeah, it was a. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Lot of letters, refining the letters, getting the right wording. So, yeah, very, very interesting process. [00:33:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:16] Speaker B: So, Josh, I think we should go to a very quick break and then we're going to be back on with our very good friend Darren Chanter from Melbourne who, who's now a resident of Safety Bay. We're here, going to. I want to hear everything that he's up to and see if we can talk about some similarities, differences with the Perth and Melbourne property market. [00:33:34] Speaker C: So I think it'll be a very interesting segment. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Let's do it. [00:33:37] Speaker C: All right, cool. And you're listening to the Perth Property Bros with Josh and Carlos. [00:33:41] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio. [00:33:49] Speaker C: And you're back with the birth Property Bros with Carlos and Josh. [00:33:52] Speaker B: I like that you finally learned to say thank you very much. [00:33:56] Speaker C: I thought I'd be nice this time. So anyway, we're in the room with Darren. Hey, Darren. [00:34:03] Speaker D: Gentlemen, good afternoon on ipl. Inspiring passionate lives Radio Rockingham with Joshua and Carlos. [00:34:11] Speaker C: There you go. [00:34:11] Speaker D: That's right, Joshua. [00:34:13] Speaker B: It's the. The Carlos and Josh show. Exactly right. [00:34:16] Speaker D: Carlos and Josh. [00:34:16] Speaker C: The Josh and Carlos show. [00:34:18] Speaker B: And we've also got Carlos joining us as. [00:34:21] Speaker C: And when I say that's an exact replica of you and you know, the size of my head, that's a one to one, I think. [00:34:29] Speaker B: One. One to one scale. [00:34:31] Speaker C: Yeah, one to one scale. Look at that. [00:34:33] Speaker B: Well, for those listening, if you're watching the stream, Tristan's just given me one of the posters that, that he used for the last magazine which happened to feature me on the front cover. So I've said I'll Uncle Carlos here next to us to join us for. [00:34:47] Speaker C: The interview without the beard and everything. [00:34:52] Speaker B: So today we're joined by the one and only Darren Chanter, known to many as Big D. I call him Big Bad Dads. He's a chef and wine lover, car enthusiast and all around man about town. Whether he's restoring vintage pedal cars, racing in high climate historic events or hosting talking talk on IPO radio. Darren lives and breathes culture, community and classic cars. With a foot in both Perth and Melbourne, Darren offers a unique perspective on city life, food, architecture and everything in between. Welcome, Daz. [00:35:25] Speaker D: Well, great. What a fantastic Introduction there. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Do you like that one? [00:35:29] Speaker D: It was good, mate. [00:35:30] Speaker B: That's off the top of my head. [00:35:32] Speaker D: Something. That's something like I would have written. Fantastic. [00:35:38] Speaker B: So you must have about 50, 100, 200 listeners today. Does you've put it out to all your networks to say, you know, you're on the. On the radio. [00:35:45] Speaker D: Yeah, everybody's listening from Waikiki in Perth to downtown North Reservoir in the northern suburbs of Melbourne. [00:35:54] Speaker B: So feel free to do some shout outs if you like, mate, no worries. [00:35:58] Speaker D: I know that there's a. There's a lady in Leighton listening. Leighton, New South Wales. So yeah, she's listening Christine. Christine's listing. So there you go. Pretty interesting. She's another interesting lady. So, yeah, very, very interesting life that the lady's had. Known her all my life. So, yeah. [00:36:17] Speaker B: So tell us a little bit about you guys. I know how I know you, but I want you to tell everybody how I know you. So we know you. [00:36:22] Speaker D: So basically the guys, we moved from Melbourne to Perth 18 months ago. I've got new nobody, no friends, no family out here in, In Perth in Western Australia. Saw the Mr. Perfect barbecue being advertised down at Safety Bay, second Sunday of the month. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Mr. Perfect. What is that? Tell us more. [00:36:54] Speaker D: It's. Mr. Perfect is more than a. More than a barbecue. It's a social, it's. It's for men to have a chat. There's a lot of men. Don't say things. Men just keep it bottled up and then they explode and then obviously things happen. So I didn't know anybody fronted up to the Mr. Perfect barbecue. Met Carlos and I've been going ever since and it's been a. It's been a fantastic thing to do. Fantastic for me, for my mental health. Fantastic to meet other people that you don't normally meet and it's. It's been great. [00:37:35] Speaker C: It's funny enough, I think not many people know that when we actually put the photos up for Darren on our poster, when he had the Mr. Perfect and the cap one, it looked exactly like Carlos. So we had to quickly change. It actually look exactly like this photo over here. [00:37:53] Speaker D: Yeah, it looks a bit. Looks nearly the same, doesn't it? [00:37:56] Speaker C: Oh yeah. If you had put the sunglasses on, we'd probably call it Carlos from that. [00:37:59] Speaker B: You know, black mark. I'm just going to draw a beard on myself. [00:38:05] Speaker D: So. So yeah, so we came out from Melbourne to Perth, went to the Mr. Perfect Breakfasts, the company I work for in Melbourne. They transferred me out here, started working in logistics here in Perth. [00:38:20] Speaker C: Nice. [00:38:22] Speaker D: Still didn't know anybody live on the beach. I always wanted to live near the beach. Near the ocean. [00:38:28] Speaker C: Yep. [00:38:29] Speaker D: So we bought a house on the Internet. [00:38:32] Speaker C: Yes. You were telling us bought a house. [00:38:34] Speaker D: On a, on the Internet. [00:38:36] Speaker B: Mate, you're lucky you didn't get scammed on that one. [00:38:38] Speaker D: Yeah. Side unseen. Wow. Side unseen. Four houses from the beach. Rebecca's family, they, they live locally. They missed it over free special on the Sunday. I was going, I was working a night shift on the, at the control tower on the Monday night. Melbourne Perth. It was three hours behind. We, Rebecca did all the paperwork, got it in. They took our final bid to, for us to go to the auction. Auction was at 6 o' clock Perth time, 9pm Melbourne time. [00:39:10] Speaker C: Wow. [00:39:11] Speaker D: I was starting work at 11 o' clock and it was cold, dark in Melbourne. It was nearly there, you know, like just before daylight saving finish, which is a thing in Melbourne. And there were five bits and we bought the house sight unseen. [00:39:35] Speaker C: Amazing. [00:39:36] Speaker D: Which was four houses from the beach, which nobody wanted, which we didn't know why we had no chance of having an inspection or anything looking at it. We bought it as is. [00:39:45] Speaker C: So I'm assuming everything's good now. [00:39:48] Speaker D: Yeah, it was a strange, was very strange. [00:39:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:53] Speaker D: Even people that know us. Yep, that's really, really strange. That was unheard of. So made the move, drove from Melbourne to Perth with the budgies in the back seat of the car. [00:40:06] Speaker C: Yes. [00:40:07] Speaker D: And drove across Australia. Drove across Australia. [00:40:10] Speaker C: Wow. [00:40:11] Speaker D: With little Stevie. Stevie and Heather in the back seat. [00:40:16] Speaker C: The budgies. [00:40:17] Speaker D: The budgies, yeah. And looked at the house and cried tears of joy, tears of pain. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:29] Speaker D: But then we drove to the end of the street and there's the beach. [00:40:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:32] Speaker D: The four houses. So that's fantastic. [00:40:34] Speaker B: 50 meters, isn't it? Yeah, just, just there. [00:40:36] Speaker D: Yeah. Four houses. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Isn't that amazing? [00:40:39] Speaker D: 50 meters, like, you know, several minutes walking distance. Now they put in a foot bath so now we don't have to walk on the road. So it's good. [00:40:46] Speaker B: So coming from busy Melbourne. [00:40:48] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:40:48] Speaker B: And you've worked in the CBD in Melbourne as a chef for years. [00:40:52] Speaker D: For years. Many years. [00:40:53] Speaker B: So you were, you were smack in the middle of it. Then you've come to Perth and you've landed in beautiful safety bay Waikiki. What a gorgeous place to land, huh? The, the beach is like turquoise. It looks like something from the Maldives. Yeah. I, I, I've went to Melbourne recently. I, I already saw the contrast. But I want to hear what, what your, your experience has been. [00:41:14] Speaker D: It's but chalk and cheese. Like really. [00:41:16] Speaker B: I mean, what are we talking about? Like where's the chalk? [00:41:19] Speaker D: And where's the chalk is like. It's really bizarre because we. I worked in the cbd, in the Italian restaurants in the city for many years. And Albert Park. Albert Park. It's more like Dunkees here in Perth, but on the beach and 20 years working the kitchens. Ricardo's El Duca Cafe El Duca in the city and Albert Park. And to come to Perthall to come here, it's like, where's, where is, where's this? I was used to. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Where's busy? Where's busy? [00:41:57] Speaker D: What's going on? Why are the shops not open on a Sunday till 11 o' clock? When I went to Coles one Sunday, well, I went to get some milk. [00:42:06] Speaker B: Closed. [00:42:07] Speaker D: I said, what's all the people said to the lady, what's all the people? She goes, oh, they don't open till 11. I said, what do you mean? [00:42:14] Speaker B: It's Sunday trading 11pm Sorry. [00:42:17] Speaker D: So in Melbourne everything's open from 7:30, 8:00 clock till midnight. Even Coles and Woolies. There's no, there's no close at 5 o' clock on a. On a Monday to Friday it's 7:30, 8 o' clock, 9 o' clock, 10 o' clock, you know, and, and that's probably one of the biggest changes that I've had to make. There's no late night trading. There's no trading all, all day and all night. On a Sunday, even on a Saturday, the shops are open all hours. The population is obviously so much bigger. Melbourne is much more compact to Perth. Even where I grew up in the northern suburbs of Reservoir, probably 15km from the CBD, which is probably Cockburn maybe, so to speak. [00:43:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:17] Speaker D: Sometimes that would take an hour and a half to two hours to transit, to transport. Because how busy it is. [00:43:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:43:25] Speaker D: My aunties live the other side of Melbourne, down Pakenham way. That is over 100km just to see that that's a Sunday. God. [00:43:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:36] Speaker D: Well, because it's three hours, forget about it. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Catch the train, forget about it. [00:43:40] Speaker D: Just forget about going. We went to Phillip island for Easter because sister, she lives down at Phillip Island. From reservoir to Phillip island, which is probably 200 k's. Maybe it was three and a half hours. [00:43:57] Speaker C: Wow. [00:43:58] Speaker D: Three and a half hours. In Perth you could be nearly to Kalgoorlie, I reckon. [00:44:03] Speaker C: No, no, down to Margaret River. [00:44:06] Speaker B: So from Safety Bay you're in mugs in 245. [00:44:09] Speaker D: Yeah, so. So, yeah, so and that's a fair distance for wa. [00:44:14] Speaker C: It is. [00:44:15] Speaker D: Where Melbourne's just the traffic. The traffic that. And that's part of the. Part of the whole thing. The traffic in Melbourne is horrendous. [00:44:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:24] Speaker D: Sydney's worse. But Melbourne, the. You know, when I was traveling from Safety Bay to the airport to go to work, say in about an hour, 45, 48 minutes some days, from the Epping super site, which is in Epping, which is on the Craigieburn bypass, which is one of the main bypasses in Melbourne, from Wallen to Epping, it's probably half an hour, so 30 kilometers sometimes it'll take 2 hours, 1 hour, 45. Traffic, just the traffic. Just the. And here, you know, they're saying, oh, I wouldn't travel that far, but it's not that far. In my head, it's not far at all because it's. It's even on a freeway. But the freeways are clogged. When they say. [00:45:16] Speaker B: Tell you what, they're getting clogged here too. You ask anybody from, you know, there's been here for a long time. It's just ever since COVID the roads are jammed, the freeways are jammed. It's becoming more and more. [00:45:28] Speaker D: It's congestion. It's not, it's not that there. There's anything wrong or if there might be something wrong, but it's just congestion. But in Melbourne, it's congestion plus and. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Cameras everywhere, you know, Cameras. Yeah, the cameras are hiding. Like, I know our cameras hide in the bushes and whatever, but their cameras are actually behind. So signs, which I thought was very interesting. They've got overhead signs that say, you know, give me some Perth, some Melbourne suburbs, you know. [00:45:54] Speaker D: All right, so basically from Wallen to Epping. [00:45:59] Speaker C: Yep. [00:45:59] Speaker D: It's called Point to Point. Point to Point. So that's coming into Perth now, but you travel between Wallen and Epping. Is a camera. Walling Wallon and is a camera at Epping. If you go faster, you might be flying and then you stop and you pull on the side of the road or whatever. But it's a point to point camera. [00:46:22] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:46:23] Speaker D: So they're now point to point cameras. [00:46:25] Speaker C: They have that down south, actually. Heading down to Bunbury. Yeah, yeah. [00:46:28] Speaker D: So that's now. [00:46:29] Speaker B: But that's one. It's about 20 k's or something. [00:46:32] Speaker C: Yeah, there's. There's actually a nice cafe in the middle. [00:46:36] Speaker B: You stop there so you can have a nice get. Big differences, though, hey guys? [00:46:42] Speaker D: It's a big difference. [00:46:43] Speaker B: You know what I noticed? I was in Melbourne. I said over Christmas, a lot of older houses, especially when you're getting down to St Kilda, a lot of older houses. They look like just walking around. There was so many. It was, it left an impression on me, but I thought this would be very difficult to transact and there must be some, some complications with owning these houses because they haven't been knocked down, they haven't been redeveloped. They seem to be everywhere. So there must be a lot of conditions attached to owning these houses. Just like when we had Michelle from Fremantle Co the other day talking about the heritage listing. It's those complications. [00:47:19] Speaker D: It's the heritage overlay. So those areas like Carlton, Rathdown Street, Carlton through there, the heritage overlay is not just one street. It's not just the facade, it's the whole area. So you're looking Carlton to the CBD probably five, ten minutes, maybe, maybe 20 minutes with the traffic. [00:47:46] Speaker C: Yep. [00:47:48] Speaker D: And it's all heritage. You know, you can't build anything over two stories. You can't change the facade. You've got to have heritage colors. You, you can't change the brickwork. You can have. Probably have the facade and you can probably build behind you. But if they find that it's a heritage listed property in that area, you can absolutely do nothing to that building. [00:48:14] Speaker B: You can barely repair it. [00:48:16] Speaker D: And you have to repair it in the ways that they built the property back in the day. [00:48:22] Speaker B: And you know, the other thing too does. My understanding is if you had to replace a couple of screws because they're rusted out, you have to keep those screws in a little bag indefinitely. You don't throw them out. [00:48:32] Speaker C: Really. [00:48:32] Speaker B: If it's a piece of panel that you've replaced or a door, you have to store it. [00:48:35] Speaker C: Wow. [00:48:36] Speaker B: You don't. Yeah. [00:48:37] Speaker D: And it's interesting you say that, Carlos, because a lot of the, A lot of the, the. There's a whole group of Melbourne wrecking yards that, that supply second hand period doors and fittings. [00:48:59] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't know that. [00:49:00] Speaker D: And there's. There's one in, there's two in Preston, there's three in the northern. There's at least four in the northern suburbs. There's a massive one in Faulkner and they have door. You can go. And there'll be like 400 doors. [00:49:13] Speaker C: Wow. [00:49:14] Speaker B: It's a big deal. [00:49:15] Speaker D: It's. [00:49:15] Speaker C: It. [00:49:16] Speaker D: It is a massive. It. It's a massive market for that sort of stuff. There's massive places like shots in Clifton Hill, which is probably 15 minutes from the city on the Train, you know that's on the Epping line and they do all that reproduction tin. I know there's a reproduction tin place in Fremantle. [00:49:41] Speaker B: Like the pressing press tin. Press tin, yeah. [00:49:44] Speaker D: That's an art form that pressed tin is beautiful. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:49] Speaker D: And they used to press tin in Carlton on the roof, on the ceilings and things like that and press. [00:49:55] Speaker B: They used to make cornice and then the ceilings and then the features around the center of the ceilings, around the, the. The light fitting or chandeliers. [00:50:02] Speaker D: They call them roses. [00:50:04] Speaker B: Amazing work, incredible work. [00:50:06] Speaker D: There's another place in Bell street pressing. They've been making roses. A rose would be sit in a 70s 60s California bungalow and it's a plaster rose now this company's been making them since the 50s, since the 40s and they do all the cornices. It's a massive market just to restore a house. Whether you're in East Melbourne which is heritage listed too. Not far from the mcg, Huddle Street, Wellington Parade, Gibbs street, that sort of. That top end between Victoria street and Hoddle Street, Wellington Parade. [00:50:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:52] Speaker D: Those houses go for millions of dollars. [00:50:54] Speaker C: But this thing like as watch reading the news, obviously you see a lot of this especially first home buyers buying up this sort of properties and you look at it like 1.8 mil, 1.9 mil. But it's completely run down. And I was like wow, first home buyers here. How like we here we're still struggling in that 5,600 thousand dollar range. This is the kind of prices we're looking at in Sydney. [00:51:17] Speaker D: Melbourne obviously like you'd be looking at probably a little bit more in Melbourne, especially those Albert Park, Richmond, Burnley, Q Too rak, Hawthorne, Clifton Hill, that sort of thing. That is all those heritage areas which, which back in the day those heritage areas were industrial, light industrial. That's where they made shoes, that's where they made paints, that's where they made all these bits and pieces. And now all those industrial areas in the day are now housing. Those old warehouses that how converted? Yeah, yeah, they're all converted. How Leather in High Street, Preston. Yeah, that's where they tanned leather and for shoes and cars and whatever that's now apartments. [00:52:10] Speaker C: So let me ask both of you. So obviously we've got that in Fremantle. Obviously we've got that. And then you've got in Melbourne. Now does that restrict housing in that sense? Does it stop people from. Well it technically doesn't. Right. People are still buying it and doing it up. But all these laws that they're putting in against you must like this, you know you have to keep the screws. You can't throw it away. You must keep the facade and you cannot break it down. [00:52:38] Speaker D: Yeah, but that's only. That is for heritage listed areas. [00:52:43] Speaker C: But that's quite big areas, isn't it? [00:52:44] Speaker D: In Melbourne they're large areas. But then when you go outer north, you go to Preston, which is, you know, was in the day was semi industrial. [00:52:54] Speaker C: Yep. [00:52:55] Speaker D: High Street Fresh. And you had all those large buildings. They're now all apartments. [00:53:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:02] Speaker D: So they've kept the facades and then they've just gone bang. They're five stories, six stories high. High Street, Preston. We're talking, you know, 10 K's, 10 to 15 kilometers out of the city. There's got to be more, there's got to be more apartments being built and more cranes in High Street, Preston, between Bell street and Murray Road, which is not a long, not a large area. There's got to be more cranes than there is in Perth High Rise. There has to be because when I was there three weeks ago, there was at least half a dozen. [00:53:40] Speaker B: What were we talking about that recently, Joshua, was that with Michelle about the numbers of cranes in the Perth skyline? [00:53:47] Speaker C: I think it was with Carly and. Yeah, we were saying, like we were using cranes as a metric to determine building. [00:53:54] Speaker D: And you guys had three. [00:53:55] Speaker C: We had three, yes. [00:53:56] Speaker D: And there's at least half a dozen in High Street, Preston. [00:54:01] Speaker C: Wow. [00:54:01] Speaker D: And we're talking High Street. We're not talking the Perth cbd. We're just talking a municipality in the northern suburbs of Melbourne. [00:54:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:10] Speaker D: And now with the sky rail, because they've taken all the, all the boom gates because Melbourne was old, so they had boom gates go up and down and you had to wait in line and the train went by and whatever. It's all sky rail. So all the rail is above the ground. And now the roads are free. [00:54:29] Speaker C: Nice. [00:54:30] Speaker B: Well, not. [00:54:32] Speaker D: But what they're doing is they're building apartment buildings either side of the sky rail now. You know, there was, there was a, a six story apartment building in Kion park, which is near the truck, which is, which used to be the old squash courts. Used to be a squash center. People used to play squash. Yeah, that's gone. And now it's an apartment building, yet it's right next to the train line. And now the people go, oh, but you know, we can hear the trains. Well, you could always hear the trains if you wanted to live, if you didn't want to live there when the train was there and you live in an apartment and the train's there. Well, that's your fault. Yeah, but now they're building, they're building at Thomas Town, which is the next suburb down. So they, they're building apartment buildings on the train line so people can actually use the train line to transport into Melbourne. [00:55:28] Speaker B: I was about to say that's actually a common practice, especially in Sydney, to build medium density, high density housing next to the major train stations. Because guess what, it's incredibly convenient to just walk across the road, get on the train and go to work. [00:55:43] Speaker C: I was just about to say, I mean this is a quite common practice in many places, especially in Southeast Asia. You look at China, look at Malaysia, Singapore, you look at. It's everywhere. But it's quite normal. [00:55:55] Speaker D: It's quite normal. But you wouldn't see that in Perth. [00:55:58] Speaker B: But I was about to say our equivalent is building the big parking lots around the, the train station. So look at Warnbrough for example. Look at Rockingham, you've got the. So everybody lives wherever they live, but. And they leave their car at the station, safely, securely jump on the train and go, you know, we've got a bit more room to play with, you know, a bit more spread out so we can have our parking lots. [00:56:20] Speaker D: There's probably what, a thousand at Rockingham, a thousand at Warborough, you know, And I was. What's this car park? What's this? [00:56:27] Speaker B: It's where you leave because somebody said. [00:56:29] Speaker D: Oh, that's where you live, your car. [00:56:30] Speaker B: You live in paradise across the road from the beach. And then you leave your car at the Traino and. And we call it a Traino, by the way. [00:56:36] Speaker D: Oh, the train. [00:56:36] Speaker B: We don't call it a train station in person. It's a trainer. [00:56:39] Speaker D: So. [00:56:40] Speaker C: All right, I think let's go into a bit of a break first and then we'll come back and talk more about the Melbourne market with Darren. All right. 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[01:08:35] Speaker A: It in but don't look down I'm on top of the world I'm on top of the world now Paying my dues to the D I've been waiting to smile at the Take you with me if I can Been dreaming that this is a child I'm on top of the world I'm on top of the world I'm on top of the world Waiting on this for a while now Paying my dues to the dirt I've been waiting to smile at the whole thing for a while Take you with me if I can A dreaming of this as a child and I know it's hard when you're falling down and it's a long way up to take you round but get up now get up, get up now and I know it's hot when you're falling down and it's a long way up if you take the round but get up now get up get up now. [01:10:14] Speaker D: The. [01:10:14] Speaker A: Best music from the 60s to today. [01:10:18] Speaker B: IPL radio. And we're back with Perth property Bros. Carlos and Josh. And a very very special guest, my very good friend Darren Chanter. [01:10:28] Speaker D: G' day guys. It's been great so far. [01:10:30] Speaker B: It's been a good break actually. Daz has been talking about safety bay problem. I thought. I wish you'd saved it for the air. Now you have to repair heat yourself does no problems. Because you're touching on an interesting point there about the granny flat that you built. What it used to cost and what it costs now. [01:10:47] Speaker D: Yeah, it's pretty like we moved in. We sort of were hunting around for another space for me to have my collection up and going. [01:11:01] Speaker B: And the granny flat just happens to be like a car museum. There's no granny living in it, just classic cars and memorabilia. [01:11:10] Speaker D: It's actually. Yeah, it's. I call it the studio of studios. [01:11:13] Speaker B: It's aside to see Josh. You need to get over there and have a look at this. You should charge admission. It's that good. [01:11:18] Speaker C: Really. [01:11:19] Speaker B: It's that good. [01:11:19] Speaker C: All right, I'm coming down. [01:11:22] Speaker D: It's. It's an interesting. Because of the Perth property market now is very tight and you guys, you. You sell and you're a property agent and things like that and you know we had this space in the backyard and yeah I removed all the trees and whatever. And you know, it's what future proofing our property and ourselves, we, we engaged Classic in Cannington. [01:11:54] Speaker C: Yep. [01:11:55] Speaker D: And they came out and I said, this is what you can have. This is what it is. The build will be in a year's time. Xyz. And we saw it. I thought, yeah, I like this. This is what we could afford. There was a couple being built in Waikiki Safety Bay at the time too. There was two being built, There was two being built in the area. And so we built it. So it was in the low 90s. The, the cost. And that was everything. That was everything. That was the planning, the sewage, the drainage. They did everything. [01:12:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:12:33] Speaker D: I didn't have to do anything. The slab, the whole lot. From that price in the low 90s, it went up into the low hundreds. [01:12:45] Speaker C: Wow. [01:12:45] Speaker D: And now it's gone up again, over 110,000. So in that respect, we're pretty lucky that we did it when we did. [01:12:58] Speaker B: You've got a grand house. I've seen your house. And it lends itself to either, like you said, split off the backyard and rent out a granny flat, or you've done it in such a way that you could actually knock the house down, rebuild it. And the granny flat's still in place at the back of the block and still have that sort of battle axe, dual tenancy sort of situation going on. [01:13:18] Speaker D: Yeah. And there's, there's a, there's a, it's pretty, it's pretty interesting because when we first saw it, you know, we, we, we built a house in Wallen which is probably 40, 40, 45 kilometers out from the CBD Hume Highway, Craigieburn. The, the rail lines electrified till Craigieburn and then it's country rail from Craigieburn to Albury, obviously that, that train then goes to Sydney. So we will, we were lucky in the stage that we, we fell upon a block of land or a large estate that nobody wanted. I had a choice of blocks to choose from. I picked out a block that had 100 square meter nature strip. [01:14:11] Speaker C: Okay. [01:14:13] Speaker D: That I wanted, that I planned in my head what I wanted. I wanted another, a separate driveway to the garage. I wanted a separate driveway to my back shed, my future back shed. Rebecca wanted a swimming pool. It's Melbourne. You only use it probably three times a year if you're lucky. And you know, in saying that the, the planning laws allowed for that. When I wanted to do that here in Perth, the city of Rockingham said, no, you're not allowed to build a double story shed. You have to build a livable property. You have to build a livable thing. Yeah. So that's what made us go to Classic and, and do that. And in Melbourne, yes, there's dual occupancy and there's granny flats in backyards. But the paperwork is immense. Yeah, the paperwork to do that in Melbourne is, is immense. [01:15:20] Speaker C: So when they actually did the change in the granny flat law, were you did. Were you during that period or was it just before then? [01:15:28] Speaker D: It was just before that. It was probably a few months. [01:15:32] Speaker C: I see. [01:15:33] Speaker D: But in saying that Classic did everything for us. [01:15:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:15:37] Speaker D: So that's great. That, that was, you know, that was one of the, that was one of the things that was attractive for that in Melbourne when I built my 96 square meter double story shed. No one had done that before. No one had done went to that extreme. [01:15:56] Speaker B: Man needs a double story shed, Josh. Right. [01:15:59] Speaker D: Man, double story shed. It was 48 square meters downstairs. [01:16:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:02] Speaker D: 48 square meters upstairs. It wasn't a mezzanine, it was a whole second floor. [01:16:06] Speaker B: What you do up there? [01:16:08] Speaker D: I had, had a, had my, all my stuff. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Man needs to put somewhere his stuff somewhere. Yeah. [01:16:13] Speaker D: And downstairs I had my race cars and my car and bits and pieces. And upstairs my father built a magnificent staircase. [01:16:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:22] Speaker D: We had a magnificent shelf. Instead of having a balustrade, we had a, A perspect lined industrial shelf. [01:16:31] Speaker C: So in Perth, he's pretty much talking about a warehouse, the second level. [01:16:36] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. [01:16:37] Speaker B: It's basically what he's talking about. Yeah. But it's interesting. Every, every city council area is going to have their different plan laws, regulations. Some properties might be restricted with, with, with. With burdens of course, that you can't do these sorts of things. Restricted restrictive covenants they're called. We spoke about this with when Carly was here that, you know, they just stipulate how you build what you build, what color it needs to be and whether you can go a second story shed or not, that sort of thing. [01:17:12] Speaker C: But what you're saying is it's quite common in Melbourne and you can actually do that in a lot of the places. Yes, but it's unfortunately not as here in Perth. [01:17:22] Speaker D: Well, it's what I wanted and all and I'm a bit, I'm a bit different. [01:17:26] Speaker B: So you're saying the granny flat that you put in at the back of your place at Waikiki would have been double story if you could have. [01:17:31] Speaker D: If I could have, I would have. [01:17:32] Speaker B: I don't know why they wouldn't have let you, you know, why? Because next to your granny flat you've got like a 40 meter wall. I'm exaggerating, but it's a massive wall. [01:17:41] Speaker D: It is a massive it. That is another house. [01:17:43] Speaker B: I think if you built a double story you, the neighbors still wouldn't see it. [01:17:46] Speaker D: Yeah, that is a three story housing store. [01:17:48] Speaker B: Cuz it looks like that they've, they've cut into the, the June. It is to keep your, your block flat. [01:17:54] Speaker D: It is. And what they've actually. What, what? How things eventuated. They had a massive tree in the backyard but it wasn't actually on our property. They actually built around the tree in the back. [01:18:08] Speaker C: Okay. [01:18:09] Speaker D: So they actually, the house was actually built around the tree right at the, in the back corner. But that back tree over was over our property. [01:18:20] Speaker C: Okay. [01:18:21] Speaker D: So that tree had to come down and we had to cut it down and there was a lot of work there. But then that's fine because I did that, that was no problem. But when it comes to the Covenants and when it comes to building things, they wouldn't allow me to build a double story shed here in Perth. [01:18:39] Speaker B: So you probably didn't have the right town plan, mate. I probably could have put you onto a good one. [01:18:43] Speaker D: Look, I went in there and I spoke to him and they go oh that would never. I said would you do something like that? And I showed them pictures and he goes where's that? I said oh that's my, my shed in Melbourne. Yeah, they come, mate, you got to be joking, don't you? [01:18:56] Speaker B: Tell him he's dreaming. [01:18:57] Speaker D: Tell him he's dreaming. Yeah, tell him he's dreaming. So yeah, so. So yeah, so in, in, in Perth it was, it was, you know, in, so in Melbourne, yeah, it's dual occupancy. A lot of the old houses now they're dual occupancy because they're so, they're so big, those blocks of land. Northern suburbs, western suburbs, it's all dual occupancy now. [01:19:20] Speaker C: Interesting. [01:19:22] Speaker D: And yeah, you put a townhouse in the backyard and that's great. And it does help with the housing shortages. The West Australian government needs to be a lot more liberal in that respect and I suppose in time that will happen. But don't hold your breath. [01:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all going to be pressure. It's going to be population density pressure. That's what generally does it. We still have a lot of land here to spread out on. So yeah, you know, it's a ways away but you know, we're only talking about this with a, with A colleague this morning that in Sydney what became popular a few years ago were Fonzie flats. You know what Fonzie flats are very similar to what Daz is describing actually. Remember the Fons from Happy days? He used to live above the garage in a flat above the garage. So these, they started being constructed everywhere. You know, quite practical. You still have your double garage or whatever and you have, have your apartment up there. You know it's where the teenagers go. It's where you'd rent out to us to another person. It's exactly what you're describing. [01:20:35] Speaker C: Still in the Netherlands area you can find those sort of flats, Fonzie flats. [01:20:40] Speaker D: Well the purse. A very good friend of ours is probably the number one photograph for Fabrizio Pari. He's got a Fonzie flat in Mount Hawthorne. So he, he's got, he's just sold his house but he's got a three car garage and he's got a Fonzie flat and he just sold it. And it's been great for him because he's used that as a photography studio. Photography studio. So you know it, it's great. But you guys have got the space. We're in Melbourne now. Space base is 50 kilometers out from the CBD. [01:21:17] Speaker B: Yeah, forget about it. You're not even Melbourne anymore. [01:21:19] Speaker D: You're not in Melbourne and now all those willert like Craigie Burn was the, the end of the line. Epping was the end of the line. Now it's Mernda South Merang. Now you're nearly heading to Whittlesey which is a good 50, 60, 70 kilometers out from the CBD which that was all farmland. Now Plenty Road is like Parramatta Road in Sydney. It's probably like I'm not sure the, the busiest road in Perth. This would be the busiest road in the northern suburbs. [01:21:59] Speaker B: It's tricky to compare Parramatta Road. I've tried to make a comparison myself to Sydney parameter Road in Sydney. When dad came over here the closest comparison maybe would have been Guildford Road. Tracking through it's effectively like trying to put when you've got a very congested Kwinana Freeway or Mitchell Freeway putting traffic lights every 200 meters. That's what Parramota Road is like. [01:22:25] Speaker C: Basically like Salt street on a busy day. [01:22:27] Speaker B: Cross streets and congestion. You probably see some of those streets up in North Perth heading into yoke. But still we don't have the density to be as congested as Parramatta Road is. Yeah. [01:22:37] Speaker D: And the traffic is just horrendous. [01:22:40] Speaker C: Yeah. But I think Darren's been Doing a good job trying to find comparisons. [01:22:44] Speaker B: I know, yeah. Because I said. We said to Daz before we started, I said, you know, a lot of listeners may not actually know where these suburbs are. I mean, a lot of people in Perth actually go to Melbourne a lot. [01:22:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:22:54] Speaker B: You know, they holiday there, they've got friends, family, whatever, whatever. But in terms of the suburbs, you know, I mean, a lot of Perth people actually don't even know where the southern suburbs are because they're safe from the north of the river. They don't really know where Cockburn is or Beelia Spearwood. [01:23:09] Speaker D: So I've got a talking about Cockburn. Just had. [01:23:12] Speaker B: What'd you call it, the fur days? [01:23:14] Speaker D: Cockburn. But a shout out to Jane of Winthrop Gardens, who says darren, it's pronounced Cockburn. So Jane, who's listening? And Jane and. And her husband out there. And very, very old friends of Rebecca's from the hippie club days back in the day. [01:23:40] Speaker C: Nice. [01:23:42] Speaker D: So, Jane, I've just pronounced that it's now Cockburn. [01:23:45] Speaker C: Co. [01:23:47] Speaker B: I didn't correct to Daz. I thought, you know, we're gonna leave. I looked at. If you look back at the footage, I actually looked over at Josh, you'd laughed, you were just in your element. I thought, we're going to let that one go through to the keeper. [01:24:01] Speaker D: And then it's the same as the public transport. The public transport in Melbourne, it's old school. So if you were in the cbd, Flinders Street Station, heart of this, you know, you see those iconic clocks on Flinders Street. So Flinders Street Station to the north of the suburb, which was epping, there'd be 15, 16, 17 stops. So you got, you know. Yeah, the inner line, which is obviously Jolly. West Richmond. Jolly Monster McG. West Richmond, North Richmond. Collingwood, Victoria Collingwood. Victoria Park. Victoria Park. There was the football ground. Collingwood Football Club, Victoria Park, Clifton Hill. Now, Clifton Hill is the hub. And then there's two lines off that hub. One is. Now, it's called the Mernda Line, but it was called the Epping Line. And the other hub was the Hurstbridge line, which went to Eltham, which was the Eltham line. So those two lines, there'd be 15, 16 stops. Yep, we're here. If you go from Perth to Mandurah, there's less than 10 and it takes. [01:25:09] Speaker C: It's pretty much half an hour. I used to wonder what the train drivers would do, you know, because it's one straight line up and one straight line down. [01:25:18] Speaker D: Yeah, it's. It's pretty. And in Melbourne now, with this suburban rail loop and all the different train stations and they try and run trains every 11 minutes. So. Yeah, and then there's other lines. Then you've got the east, then you've got the west, then you got the south. And, you know, at one stage you could go from the CBD to Frankston, which is a good hour and a half out. And that's the southern suburbs. That's a bit like, you know, Rockingham and that sort of, you know, Waikiki along the beach. And the train line does go along the beach. [01:26:00] Speaker C: Yeah. Are those the proper train lines or is it the tram lines? [01:26:05] Speaker D: Proper train lines. [01:26:06] Speaker C: Train lines. What about the tram lines? Like, I, I've always had a fascination for trams and I feel like Perth TR should benefit from some of that. We don't have anything of those sorts. [01:26:16] Speaker D: See, Perth would benefit from the tram, but the trams, like if you went from the city, the cbd, to Bundoora, which is probably from Perth to, say, Rockingham, probably 30 odd K's, there'd be. There's over a hundred stops on the tram and that's going down Plenty Road. [01:26:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:42] Speaker D: So. And the trams have. Right away. So if you're stuck behind the tram down Plenty Road, you ain't going far. [01:26:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:49] Speaker D: And it's going to take you a long time to get to the city or wherever you're going. [01:26:53] Speaker C: Oh, you probably need to confine it to a certain area, like, say, for example, just the city or something like that, you know? [01:26:58] Speaker D: You know, I mean, trams are great and they're great around the city because you get off on and go hop. [01:27:06] Speaker C: And hop on up, off statement. [01:27:08] Speaker D: It's fantastic. And there is a tram, a tram circle, city circle, that's free. So when you're traveling in the city, it's free. There was a City Circle tram that took you to the, to the Victoria Market, it took you to Docklands, it took you to Parliament House, it took you all around the city. It just was a circle and it would just go around the circle and it was great. It's great for tourists. They have a person who talks about where they're going and they stop and if you want to go, hey, catch that tram and this tram and that tram. But if you, if, if you. Yeah, trams are great, but if you're stuck behind the tram, going down Sydney Road, going down St Kilda Road, going down Hawthorne, going down Victoria street, it does take some time. [01:28:01] Speaker C: There's. A few episodes ago we were talking to, obviously, with Carlos and a few others, we were saying about How? Obviously Perth City is quiet. There's nothing much going on in the city. But then we were trying to compare, like I was doing this comparison with Sydney, Melbourne, Queensland and a few of the other states. They always had a university in the city. You know, you can actually see then a lot of the students tend to. Obviously they're always going out, they would enjoy the night life. They're going to be, you know, having the food and all that. So I find that now Perth has taken a big step at the moment and we've actually got a university in our city which is currently being built and we're going to open it next year, which is Josh Ecu. Ecu. Ecu. Edit Cohen University. Yeah. So I think they're moving their Joondalup campus down to the city, I believe so anyway, then we're going to be welcoming about 10, 000 people into the city. [01:29:01] Speaker D: Look, it's great. And the University of Melbourne is in Carlton, which is Royal Parade. [01:29:09] Speaker C: Yep. [01:29:10] Speaker D: Which the tram goes, that's from Elizabeth street, goes down Royal Trade Carlton, goes to Brunswick and that train ends up in Fawkner, which is probably 25 to 30k, which is the per CBD to Rockingham, somewhere about 35ks. And there is universities and that university Carlton is a hub. There's all those little coffee shops, there's all those little things. There's student accommodation. [01:29:37] Speaker C: Is that the Ligon screen and all that? [01:29:39] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. Logon Street, Westmount, the hospitals are all in that sort of vicinity. There's a little bit of industry there or there was industry there. A lot of apartments. [01:29:50] Speaker C: A lot. Yeah. [01:29:51] Speaker D: There's a heap of. There's a heap of hotels, there's a heap of pubs, there's a heap of eateries. [01:29:59] Speaker C: A lot of the student housings as well. [01:30:01] Speaker D: A lot of student. A lot of student housings. And some of those old hotels like the. The old Melbourne and thing are now student accommodation. [01:30:08] Speaker C: Okay. [01:30:09] Speaker D: In the cbd, there's a lot of. There's still a lot of large businesses in the cbd. The banks, the hotels. The CBD has changed. I worked at 101 Collins street, which is the. They call it the Paris in the Collins street rule, where Louis Vuitton is and things like that. And that's bustling. But that's always been bubbly. The further you get down, the quieter it gets. You hit Bourke street, you cross Elizabeth street street. So you're at the top of Melbourne Parliament House and you're looking down Collins Street. It's a lot different now than it was with COVID Covid closed a lot of businesses down and yeah, we were, they were under the pump in Melbourne because it really. The state government closed the state down for that period of time. [01:31:05] Speaker B: That was an interesting time, mate. I think they're still in a lot of trouble trying to find all that money. [01:31:10] Speaker D: They are, they are in trouble. And you know the best thing for the Victorian people to do is to change government because they've done, they've done so much damage. [01:31:25] Speaker B: That's going to be an interesting time. [01:31:26] Speaker D: I think it is going to be an interesting time. And you know, Melbourne's a great vibrant. You got the market like the other thing. In Perth, there's no markets. [01:31:35] Speaker B: What do you mean there's no markets? There's markets everywhere. [01:31:37] Speaker D: No, there's no, there's nothing like Vic Market. There's nothing like. [01:31:41] Speaker B: So describe it in terms of scale because these are micro, these are community markets that you have everywhere. Like the food trucks we have at Safety Bay, you've got them everywhere. [01:31:50] Speaker C: You're talking about Queen Elizabeth markets. [01:31:52] Speaker D: No, this is on. What you guys have got in Western Australia is a small scale. Small scale. Victoria market. There must be 10 sheds. 10 sheds, probably 250, 300 meters long. They sell everything. Fruit and veg, honey. [01:32:11] Speaker B: Oh, okay, I know. [01:32:13] Speaker C: Are you talking about canning wheel markets? [01:32:15] Speaker D: No, this is just, this is Vic market where you go and buy your groceries, we go and buy your fresh. [01:32:20] Speaker B: You've got them in Sydney too. They're like massive market. [01:32:23] Speaker D: Fresh fruit and veg. And then so that would be three or four sheds long. And then next to it you'd have people selling linen, people selling linen for dresses. You'd find people selling clothes, shoes, all that sort of thing. [01:32:39] Speaker C: Wow. [01:32:39] Speaker D: Then you go across the thing, you, you stop off at American donuts because when you're in Melbourne you've got to have American donuts from the market. They're the best donuts. They're the best donuts. [01:32:49] Speaker B: So we've got a plug for the, the granny flat guy. Now we've got a plug for the American donuts. Yep. [01:32:54] Speaker D: What else does a bratwurst guy. But in that section. Yeah, it's all meat, seafood, chicken, poultry, bread, small goods, any type of salami you want. It's there. Any type of cheese you want, it's there, it's there. Any type of bread you want. You want Jewish bagels from the Jewish people. There's bagels. All right, so you have that. There's nothing like that here in Perth. In Adelaide. There's the Adelaide market. In Sydney, there's a Sydney market. But then you just go across, across the era and the South Melbourne market. And that's the same. Not on the. Not on that big scale, but all good stuff or exactly the same. [01:33:41] Speaker B: Dad, you've probably got to look at this from a cultural perspective. I mean, historically, Perth has been a very Australian city. You know, when you're looking at the cultural demographic of the people running these markets, like Vic Market in Melbourne, you're talking about the ethnics really, mate. The Italians, the Maltese, the Greeks. You know, they're bringing all their markets from the old country, their artisanal sort of offerings and creating massive markets. Just how it's always been done. That's how it's done in Sydney. I don't think that there's been that sort of. Sort of go on so much in Perth. I mean, the Italians have been a big community to the north, but yeah, not so much in terms of ethnic diversity like Sydney, Melbourne. Yeah, you know, that's why these markets are so massive. But this is where you get your fruit and veg. This is where you cook your Sunday. Your Sunday dinner. This is where they stock up on all food for the next three months. Oh, these markets and pickle everything. I mean, you know what I mean, this is a. This is an ethnic scene. [01:34:42] Speaker D: I know. Look, I speak to my mom every other day and my dad every other day because there's always something going on. And like, I went to Layla and went to Layla shops and how much are the caps again? I said, oh, four, five, six, seven dollars here. Oh, they're 99 cents. I mean, watermelon. You talking about you. And now you're talking about cost of living. All right, the cost of living, of gas, electricity here, it's cheaper, that's great. But the cost of living. If you wanted to feed your family, you'd have to go to Woolies or, you know, Rocking and Fresh or this or that or Gilbert's or Malibu Fresh or one of the. And they're expensive. You go to Laylaw Shops or Preston Market and, you know, like a bag of onions is $10, 10 kilos, or. Or if you go there on a Saturday at midday and they just want to get rid of all the meat. [01:35:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:35:39] Speaker D: So everything's, hey, $4, $5, $6, $7, $5 for a tray of cutlets or, you know, something like that. You don't see that. [01:35:47] Speaker C: I would love for that to come back. Anyway, let's go into a bit of a Break and we'll come back and let's ask Darren but what he likes about Perth. How about that? [01:35:55] Speaker B: I've got a game for Daz. Actually you've probably, you've both probably been thinking, oh, Carlos is sitting there texting. Well I actually haven't been. I've been looking through Perth suburbs and I've actually written up a bit of a list here for Darren to pronounce. So we'll be right back with a big bad days on the Carlos and Josh property. [01:36:13] Speaker C: Josh and Carlos. [01:36:14] Speaker B: Carlos and Josh. [01:36:16] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio and. [01:36:24] Speaker B: We'Re back with the Perth property Bros. Carlos and Josh. Notice I said Carlos and Josh. Josh first there. Very good. And our very good friend Daz. Thanks for coming in Darren. [01:36:34] Speaker D: That's great. It's been fantastic so far and you know we're gonna. What's great about Perth? [01:36:40] Speaker B: You've been such a great supporter of our show. I know you're always listening in and sending in questions. So glad you're finally coming on and you've got your own show coming up. [01:36:49] Speaker D: Yes. [01:36:50] Speaker B: Talking talk. [01:36:51] Speaker D: Talking talk in the next couple of weeks on a Sunday afternoon. [01:36:54] Speaker C: We're not talking tok talk is talk. [01:36:59] Speaker D: Talking talk. We will be starting in a couple of weeks time on a Sunday afternoon. Talking all things car. Talking all things talk. Car racing, Formula one, touring cars, car clubs, pedal cars, car magazines, car outings, cars, all sorts of car stuff. And the great music of driving, cruising, nice in Perth. You call it the bog lap. The music that we play while we're driving around in our cars. [01:37:35] Speaker B: That's going to be fun. Did you see the tick tock we made you? [01:37:38] Speaker D: Yes. [01:37:39] Speaker B: Oh by the way, we were talking suburbs earlier. Yes, we're talking suburbs. So I've actually, I've written a few down for you here. [01:37:48] Speaker D: Okay. [01:37:49] Speaker B: Be very curious to see how they're going to come out. Are you, are you confident? Are you confident? We're talking positive about Perth. [01:37:55] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:37:56] Speaker B: And awesome suburbs. [01:37:57] Speaker D: So look, Perth's great. I mean the, it's, it's the lifestyle. It's, it's a, it's a lot easier. [01:38:05] Speaker B: It's the vibe. [01:38:06] Speaker D: It's, it's, it's like that's Brunswick. [01:38:10] Speaker B: It's the vibe. [01:38:11] Speaker D: That's the vibe, man. [01:38:12] Speaker B: Dennis Denudo says it's the vibe. [01:38:14] Speaker D: Sydney Road, Brunswick. And we knew a lawyer who was across the road from that shop. [01:38:19] Speaker C: Okay. [01:38:19] Speaker D: And he said like tons of people you know. Hey man, do you know Dennis Denudo? Dennis Denudo but yeah, Perth's great. You know, the, you know, the people are so laid back that people are friendly, you know, people. It's a different lifestyle. It's a different lifestyle than growing up in Melbourne. And it's for the better. Yeah, it's what it used to be. [01:38:47] Speaker B: Like many years ago. I mean, you're talking Melbourne, Sydney, Cameron, many years, even further back. [01:38:56] Speaker D: Even the 70s, 80s, it was. [01:38:57] Speaker B: Yeah, it is, it's a. It's like a bit of a time capsule. [01:39:01] Speaker D: Here it is. I love it. I just, I just think. [01:39:03] Speaker B: But it's changing. It's changed. Forget about. It's changed. After Covid, it's. It's done. [01:39:08] Speaker D: I suppose we. When I met Rebecca and her family's out here, we. We've been out a couple of times and yeah, each time we came, it grew up a little bit and even, you know, we were down at Leaderville last weekend and, and, and it's. Yeah, it's a lot better. And the food's great and those little, those little coffee shops, those little eateries are fantastic. And it's going in the great direction, it's going in the right direction and the transport's great, the trains are great. You know, there, you know, there's all sorts of weird and interesting things to see. And I'm loving these pub breweries. Yeah, I mean, you don't see that in Melbourne. The only pub breweries that we had in Melbourne, they're closed and they were the Waltzing Matilda and there was a one in Brunswick, but here it's great. The ginger beers, the Swan Valley. Every, every second thing is a pub brewery. And it's fantastic. And not only is it fantastic for the community, but it's fantastic that people can do that. And you know, the Swan Valley is great. And you know, there's all the other. There's all the other things. And every, every part of Perth, whether you be in the inner city or Leaderville or Rockingham, they will have their Sunday market or their Saturday market. That doesn't happen in Melbourne. It's only. There's one big market and it's in bandura at the university and that's every Sunday. But here it's every week. [01:40:50] Speaker B: It's every week. They're scattered out around the place. [01:40:54] Speaker D: Fantastic. I mean, so speak. [01:40:56] Speaker B: Speaking of which, these. Hold on, Siri just activated for some reason and end again. Okay, here we go, guys. Let's see. There's the first one, first cab off the rank. I. I'll slide him up for you. Hold on a Second there. [01:41:14] Speaker D: Jind. [01:41:16] Speaker B: Yep. What do we got? Josh. How. How close did he come? [01:41:19] Speaker C: Yeah, that was not bad, Jindy. [01:41:22] Speaker B: Okay, not too bad. Good start. Next one, Dianella. Oh, very good. Yes. This one. This man knows what he's talking about. How about that one? [01:41:32] Speaker D: Buragon? [01:41:34] Speaker B: Josh? [01:41:34] Speaker C: It's Buragun. Yeah. [01:41:38] Speaker D: Okay. [01:41:38] Speaker B: Boo Ragoon. Could put a bit of a boo in it, mate. How about that one? [01:41:43] Speaker D: Cardinia. [01:41:44] Speaker B: Cardinia. Yeah. Good job. These are too easy for him. [01:41:51] Speaker D: Condola. [01:41:54] Speaker B: Kundula. [01:41:54] Speaker D: Okay. [01:41:55] Speaker B: Kundula. Now, you get extra points if you actually tell us where these suburbs are. [01:41:58] Speaker D: Just no idea. Yoko. [01:42:03] Speaker B: Yeah, you got it. A lot of people would pronounce that differently. I did the first time I ever saw that. [01:42:07] Speaker C: What did you say? Let's hear it. [01:42:09] Speaker B: Huh? [01:42:09] Speaker C: What did you say? [01:42:10] Speaker B: Joaquin. Yeah, you got it too. See, this guy's. This guy's pretty awesome. Let's see if he gets this one though. [01:42:19] Speaker D: Rockingham. [01:42:20] Speaker B: No, I'm sorry. It's Rockingham. If you're from Rockingham, it's Rockingham. Okay, I can't see. There we go. How about that one? [01:42:33] Speaker D: Leaderville. [01:42:34] Speaker B: Leaderville. [01:42:35] Speaker D: Leaderville. [01:42:36] Speaker B: It's not a ville. It's not like Erskineville. It's either. [01:42:40] Speaker D: It's pretty. Pretty trendy. [01:42:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:42:42] Speaker B: You got it. [01:42:43] Speaker D: There's a restore out there. It's good. [01:42:45] Speaker B: How about that one? D. Coburn. Coburn. You got it in one. [01:42:49] Speaker D: It's not pronounced get slapped. [01:42:51] Speaker B: Other way. [01:42:54] Speaker D: Gidget up. [01:42:55] Speaker B: Yeah, you got it. [01:42:55] Speaker C: Yeah. No, that's good. [01:42:56] Speaker B: That wasn't bad at all. [01:42:57] Speaker D: Well, I know we've got family out there. Rebecca's got family out there. Ear. Skin. Er, Skine. [01:43:03] Speaker B: Tripped you up. I did trip you up. Yo Kind and Erskine. [01:43:08] Speaker D: Yep. Giroin. [01:43:11] Speaker B: Very nice. [01:43:14] Speaker D: Karen. [01:43:15] Speaker B: Up. Very good. [01:43:18] Speaker D: Subie. Echo. [01:43:19] Speaker B: Subi. Echo. Very good. Very well done. Last one. [01:43:30] Speaker D: That's cool. Jaredale. [01:43:33] Speaker B: Jared, you did very well. Daz. [01:43:34] Speaker C: Very good. [01:43:35] Speaker B: I was actually very impressed, mate. [01:43:36] Speaker D: I've just been. You know, it's. It's with the car club. You get all these different people. [01:43:43] Speaker B: You get applications from everywhere. [01:43:44] Speaker D: I. Weird applications. So the XKXL XM XP felt ones in Western Australia. [01:43:49] Speaker B: Say that fast 10 times. Go. [01:43:51] Speaker D: XK XL XP West Australia Inc. Because we are incorporated. Nice. We've got. Just reading the. The, you know, the club membership forms. There's members from Broome to down south. You know, we all these know. I'm thinking, where's this. Or we're going to Gijigana. [01:44:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:44:15] Speaker D: And Rebecca's uncle lives. Got a property in Gijigana. And you know, I think, where's, what's he selling? Then it's kid, you get up. Okay, cool. Or it's Morley or it's this or it's that. And I'm thinking, oh yeah, okay. But the spread because Perth is so long and Western Australia is so is half the country. [01:44:37] Speaker B: It's so wide. Yeah. [01:44:39] Speaker D: You just pick up, you know, you've got giro weaned or you got broom or you got, you know, places like that. And we've got members everywhere. [01:44:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:44:49] Speaker D: So you sort of, you look at them. Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. We picked up a member from Subieko today and there was another one last week and whatever. So. So yeah, so it's, it's, it's a large area. It's not like, you know, Epping, Thomastown, Brunswick. So Brunswick's, you know, German, you know, so there wouldn't be anything like that here. [01:45:12] Speaker B: So I'm glad that the, the car club's actually taken off for you, Darren. It's been a good project for you. You're involving people just like you're involved in the Mr. Perfect barbecues with me. Yeah. You even ran the barbecue when I was in Melbourne over the road. [01:45:27] Speaker D: In January. [01:45:28] Speaker B: This is effectively my co host, unofficially, but hopefully soon he'll become officially my co host. Doesn't actually know about that yet. But I do need somebody to wear the black shirt, which he pinched, by the way. I, I let him borrow my Mr. Perfect shirt. This one here in the photo. [01:45:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:45:42] Speaker B: It didn't come back. Neither did my stapler, by the way. [01:45:45] Speaker D: I'll go in the car. [01:45:47] Speaker B: He's had it in the car for about six months. [01:45:49] Speaker D: I was gonna try and sell it at Trash and Treasure. There's no Trash and Treasure here. There's only rocking a market on the Sunday. [01:45:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:45:56] Speaker D: So that's what's the walk. [01:45:57] Speaker B: But it's about getting involved in it, isn't it? [01:45:59] Speaker D: It is, it is. It's all about getting involved and, and you know, we all have in one way, shape or form, you know, mental health issues, problems, assimilation problems. So many, so many men, they don't, they don't Talk. And the Mr. Perfect barbecue is great to have a chat to somebody that you wouldn't normally ever meet in your day to day life. [01:46:24] Speaker B: Never. [01:46:25] Speaker D: And the car club's the same. [01:46:26] Speaker B: And how about the learning? That's what I find interesting. Does you? Some of the guys that come to the barbecue, as you know, they're quite a lot older and they're from so Many different situations. The reasons they're there, whether they're. They're widowed, they're separated, they're just. They've chosen never to marry or whatever the story is. I mean, these guys have lived an enormous. An amazing life. Enormous amounts of experience. [01:46:48] Speaker D: Yeah. The stories are unbelievable. [01:46:50] Speaker B: And we get to listen to that, you know, and these guys are our mates, and, you know, we rely on each other. We had a barbecue one week, Josh. Where about a guy. Yeah, don't say his name. [01:47:04] Speaker D: Good guy. Good guy. Good guy. [01:47:06] Speaker B: He's a good friend of ours, actually. But then the next month, you know, we were just looking out for him to make sure that he was all right, and he seemed to be okay, but, you know, he needed to just. Just be with us. [01:47:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:47:16] Speaker B: And have it. Have a chat and have a snag. And that's what. That's what it's all about. [01:47:20] Speaker D: So that is what it's all about. It's all about, you know, having a snag, having a drink, having a chance chat, having a Coke, having a water. Carlos has got the ginger beers coming out, and, you know, he brings the little muffins out, and he's on the barbecue, and he's got his as well, South African sausages. [01:47:36] Speaker B: You haven't been to the barbecue, Joe. [01:47:38] Speaker D: You got to come to you, Josh. You've got to come to the barbecue. [01:47:40] Speaker C: All right. I keep saying it. I need to do it. [01:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:42] Speaker D: And it's helping everybody's mental health. And. And that's what, you know. Ipl, the radio station. Inspiring passionate lives. That's what it's. That's the story. And it's great to be part of a community in Rockingham that has this. Has a volunteer radio station that has this as its mantra, to go through the community. And we're looking at the lovely picture and the effigy. The effigy of Carlos. [01:48:17] Speaker B: The effigy of Carlos on the front cover there. [01:48:20] Speaker D: Cleanly shave it with. No. Which is. [01:48:23] Speaker B: The jury's still out on the. On the beard or no beard, but, you know, you're absolutely right. Does. I mean, you know, Josh is a buyer's agent. I'm a selling agent. We. We work for our community in many different ways. And, you know, the Mr. Perfect barbecue is just another way that we get involved. Inspiring passionate lives. IPL Radio. We're here to share our knowledge. We interact with our. Our listeners, where you try to provide something valuable every week, even bringing guests on like yourself. And, you know, we're booked out, what, two, three months in advance, Josh. We've got a long list of professionals to bring in. All of them contributing in a different. [01:48:57] Speaker D: Way and it's, it's, it's part of the community and that's what, that's what draws the community together. [01:49:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:49:07] Speaker D: The IPL Radio, they're having a horror quiz not coming up. [01:49:10] Speaker C: Yes, they are. [01:49:11] Speaker D: And it's drawing that draws the community more together. There's some great prizes and some great night, some great questions and get dressed up and you know, have a, have a great time and to be part of the inspiring lives family. It's great for me and to be able to have a show. Show on the IPAL station. Talking talk which we're going to be talking about like the Car Club. So not just the, the XK XLX MXP Falcon Car Club or West Australia. [01:49:50] Speaker B: But say that 10 times does go. [01:49:51] Speaker D: On the XKXL XM XP Falcon Car Club of West Australia Incorporated. [01:49:57] Speaker C: So it's going to be a bit like the Top Gear show then. Yes. [01:50:02] Speaker B: I think you're gonna look, you're gonna be very interesting. [01:50:05] Speaker D: It's always, there's, there's always going to be something interesting being said and spoken and music and, and things like that. But it's, it's, you know, and I've got these friends that have. Coming on that have got stories to tell and everybody's got a story to tell. [01:50:20] Speaker C: Tell us how many you said you mentioned earlier you've booked out. How many do you have? [01:50:26] Speaker D: I think there's. It's 35 to 40. [01:50:30] Speaker C: Oh, there you go. [01:50:30] Speaker B: 35 to 40. Yes. [01:50:32] Speaker C: He's booked out more than us even before starting. [01:50:34] Speaker B: Josh is just dwarfed us. We need to pick up our game, bro. [01:50:38] Speaker C: He's got volunteers coming from Kansas. [01:50:42] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. Bob Gunther. Bob Gunther from Wichita, Kansas will be talking about salt racing, vintage pedal cars. [01:50:55] Speaker B: Fighting words. I think we've got a. We've got a rival now. [01:50:57] Speaker C: We've got to step up game. That's pretty much what he's saying. [01:51:00] Speaker D: Harding from Melbourne, he owns Aussie Desert Coolers. They run the dry lakes races. Yeah, well, the dry likes race. They race on the salt flats. He's going to be on and there's all sorts of people so, you know, it's all their stories, playing some music and it's been great, you know, I mean Carlos asked me months ago to come on with you guys and if we planned it. But then this interaction with somebody, Tristan Reddick who runs IPL Radio and inspiring passionate lives. He came to the, the Barbecue a couple of weeks ago. We had a chat. I came in, we had a chat. We've had another chat. And how would you like to have a show? [01:51:46] Speaker B: See that, that came from the barbecue. This is the community connection we're talking. [01:51:50] Speaker D: That is, it's the community connection because I wasn't going to come to the barbecue that morning. I was going to go to a coffee in cars in Mandurah with some of the. The car club, some people from Mandura and out Pinjarraway and we'll bring them. [01:52:08] Speaker B: Over next time, dad. Yeah, we'll bring them over to the barbecue and we'll look after them. [01:52:11] Speaker D: Well, they're. Yeah, they're, you know, so. Yeah, so we've was an interesting conversation. How come you didn't come? I said, this is what happened. Like, oh, wow, can we come on the road? We've got our story. [01:52:21] Speaker C: And that's good because you were telling earlier you had members. Was it in Bali? Listening as well? Yeah, to them as well. [01:52:28] Speaker D: So we've got Roger Hughes and the guys. Yeah, they're listing overseas. Yeah, I know Bob Gunther is listing in Wichita, Kansas. [01:52:40] Speaker B: Wichita, Kansas. [01:52:42] Speaker D: Wichita, Kansas. Which is like they're 13 hours behind. Yeah, but. Yeah, nearly 13 hours behind. [01:52:49] Speaker C: Yeah. What, in the morning over there? Yeah, Be early, very early. [01:52:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it'd be Friday morning. [01:52:57] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. Five o' clock. [01:52:58] Speaker B: Yeah, how about that? [01:52:59] Speaker D: He gets up early. [01:53:01] Speaker B: We have listeners all over the world. Our big listener base, our primary listener base is in the Rockingham community. But. But we get messages and calls from all over the state, sometimes depending on the guest and the topic, because we've had settlement agents, mortgage brokers on here, other real estate agents talking about how they contribute to the community, what their specialization is. And it's been interesting, it's been really interesting to connect people this way. And you don't know what's going to come of it. [01:53:31] Speaker D: No, it has. And you know, I've listened to you guys on a Tuesday, then on a Monday, and since I've been home for the past eight weeks, I've been listing every Monday. [01:53:43] Speaker C: Amazing. [01:53:43] Speaker B: So number one fan listening to the Carlos and Josh. [01:53:47] Speaker D: Listening, listening, learning. So that's the thing with you guys, it's got to be Carlos and Josh or Josh and Carlos. [01:53:53] Speaker C: Josh and Carlos. [01:53:54] Speaker D: But with me, it's only got to be me. [01:53:55] Speaker C: Darren, you don't need to fight with anyone. [01:53:58] Speaker B: It's all about Darren. [01:53:59] Speaker C: Show what rolls off the tongue. I think Josh and Carlos does. [01:54:02] Speaker D: Yeah, the Josh and Carlos. Carlos and Josh. [01:54:04] Speaker B: It doesn't make sense mate. C comes before J. [01:54:08] Speaker D: See, you know, really really old. [01:54:11] Speaker B: Even surnames. All right, sorry my friend. Now Darren brought up an interesting point the other day. The other day, just a moment ago. We've got the IPL radio quiz night coming up. Horror quiz night, 13th of June. It's going to be in Medina. So they're selling tables for 225 or 25 per person. So I'm definitely going to. This, this is going to be a lot of fun. We're going to see all of the other hosts were there are going to be there, all of the extended family from IPO radio. So it's, you know, of course their stars are gonna come along like you and I Josh, or more me, not the stars. I didn't see your face on this big poster, Josh. I only see mine. [01:54:53] Speaker C: Dwarf man. Have you seen the size of yours advice? It's completely different. [01:55:01] Speaker B: So it'd be really good to get everybody involved at the horror Quiz night for I feel radio just raising funds. I mean this is an on organization and everything. All funds go to. To keeping the lights on and keeping all these services connected because even Dungeons and Dragons guys come in here, you know that I think they're coming in at the moment. Yeah, they, yeah, it's not just radio. There's. They help a lot of, you know. [01:55:27] Speaker C: The youths around the area as well. [01:55:29] Speaker B: Yeah, the youth people that are on, on the working. Working for the income schemes. They. They come in here and get experience, work experience. There's. There's so many people involved in the IPL family. So. [01:55:42] Speaker D: And it's a great, it's a great, it's a great initiative and it's a great initiative for the old, the young. It's a great initiative for the community. [01:55:54] Speaker B: And, and Tristan's even just IPL radius actually joined our BNI chapter as you know, brought Tristan along to help him expand his networks and get more support. So so far it's working. And even Darren, Darren's arranged or arranging for some funding. I'm a station sponsor personally. We've arranged the Rotary Club of Rockingham to sponsor the station as well. So we're all making a contribution. And all of this started from one single conversation. [01:56:23] Speaker D: One conversation over a sausage and a ginger beer a few weeks ago. [01:56:28] Speaker B: Yeah, and even when I met Tristan, it was just a simple handshake at a mental health event. We were running a stall for Mr. Perthy and he came along and I thought they were doing a podcast. It was really funny because he comes up to me and he starts interviewing me and I thought that this was a podcast. I had no idea it was live on the radio. They were running a remote station that day and that was set up just down, down the way, broadcasting live. And I'm talking no idea. It was completely live. [01:56:54] Speaker D: So is that the one that was on the beach? [01:56:56] Speaker B: No. [01:56:56] Speaker D: On the foreshore? [01:56:57] Speaker B: No, it was a park in the back of Rockingham there. I forget which park it is. But one simple interview about Mr. Perfect led to a conversation that eventually turned into this show. And yeah, great support between us. [01:57:12] Speaker D: Yeah, it is, it's. It's. It's fantastic. And you know, we've started a new life in Western Australia and it's been great. Yeah, there's been. No, it's all been positive. [01:57:26] Speaker B: It's been good to have you on the show, Darren. It's been several weeks. I've been looking forward to having you here, mate. Thank you for your contribution. I mean, you can have your own show soon and then you can talk about whatever you like. [01:57:37] Speaker C: Darren, tell us, how can this nest contact you or you know, you know a little bit about your show? [01:57:43] Speaker D: So basically at the moment we haven't. The show's not set. Set in stone, but I am starting in June, early June, which is only a couple of weeks away. We'll be on the Facebook pages, on the IPL radio page, on the early falcons of Western Australia. Paid wa. Falcons. Yeah, all the, all the, all the falcon pages will be on because it's a good, you know, those. Everybody would be, you know, working on their cars. It's winter time in Western Australia, so they'll, they'll all be. Everybody's tuned in, everybody wants to hear their say and, and listen to some great music because that's the iPad, that's the IPL way. Also great music. [01:58:33] Speaker B: Not when Josh is on the controls. When Josh it's on the controls, it's not so great music. [01:58:39] Speaker C: But. [01:58:39] Speaker B: But anyway, continue. [01:58:40] Speaker D: Yeah, so, you know, so, so the music and the car club stuff and you know, we'll. When we get further into it, we'll start advertising. We've got a flyer to come up and we've just got our talking talk number plate. [01:58:56] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:58:56] Speaker D: Well, yeah, we've got our. [01:58:58] Speaker B: That's sounds like a good one. Yeah. [01:58:59] Speaker D: I'm going to get stick some stickers made and when we have a guest or give them a sticker. [01:59:03] Speaker C: Nice. [01:59:05] Speaker D: So yeah, so we'll get one for each of you guys for me being a guest for your show. [01:59:09] Speaker C: There you go. [01:59:11] Speaker D: And, and yeah, so it's all about, you know, there's so many ideas and so many things that we can do and how to promote things. So you know, we're going to be on Sunday afternoons from three till six. [01:59:24] Speaker C: Yeah, brilliant. [01:59:26] Speaker D: Which is great because in the mornings we'll be going to some coffee and cars and interviewing other people who have got a car and there's some interesting people in the car culture here in Western Australia and their stories and what they're going through. So that should be an interesting, some interesting segments. Cool. [01:59:58] Speaker B: All right, awesome. Thanks for coming in guys. It's been a pleasure having you, my friend. Thanks. [02:00:03] Speaker D: Thank you. Carlos and Josh. Josh and Carlos. [02:00:07] Speaker B: It's Carlos and Josh. What's Next for you, Mr. Josh? We've got. Let's go and do a quick ray. [02:00:12] Speaker C: And then we'll close up the show, shall we? [02:00:14] Speaker B: Okay, let's do it. [02:00:15] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today, IPL radio. [02:00:21] Speaker B: And we're back with Perth Property Bros. Carlos and Josh and about to sign off. [02:00:25] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a good one, wasn't it? [02:00:26] Speaker B: Good show does. Yeah, I was looking forward to that show. Like I said, talking about Melbourne property, especially about those heritage listed properties that are very difficult to manage. Just like the Fremantle properties we were talking about with Michelle just the other week. So what's on next for you, Josh? What are you working on? [02:00:45] Speaker C: Got a few clients on board at the moment. As I said there's a lot more investor activity coming back. So as we started the show we mentioned that, you know, with the RBA cuts we're seeing a lot more activity happening. We're going to see all our current stocks deplete obviously. Hopefully a lot more sellers will want to come on board and with rate cuts happening now, you know, if it happens next month, the month after, we don't know what's going to happen in. [02:01:09] Speaker B: But you know, so it's going to. [02:01:11] Speaker C: Get busier and we can already see with the house prices going up and as I showed you some of the stats earlier as well. Yeah, it's going to be an interesting. [02:01:20] Speaker B: Time ahead of us. Well, that's what I'm, I'm working on a land estate tonight. That's why I need to get, I'm not going to go to Rotary to night. I've already put in an apology because I have to get this estate up online and I just kept thinking it's a great time to list it right before all these interest rate cuts keep coming. [02:01:39] Speaker C: So. [02:01:39] Speaker B: Well, price point's good. So yeah, it's going to be an interesting, interesting few months. I'm going to be very busy, so I'll probably be up late writing with these contracts and getting it up and running. So it's good to be with you again, my brother. Property, bro. [02:01:53] Speaker D: Property. [02:01:55] Speaker B: Next week we've got Raymond Dupree. He's a building inspector from Jim's building and very fascinating guy. He's very knowledgeable. He similar to Paul Cable that came on. He gave us his perspective on how he handles building inspections. I'll be really keen to see what Raymond's got to say. Yeah, he's just the loveliest guy. [02:02:15] Speaker C: Yes, he's BNI Shining Force. [02:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah, Another BNI member. Another one to one for us to log. [02:02:21] Speaker C: There you go. All right. Anyway, nice catching up with you again, Carlos. We'll do this again next week, shall we? [02:02:27] Speaker B: Thank you. And if you want to reach me, Carlos, at WA Property Sales, my number is 0419 Double Seven Five Triple Five. Or you can catch me at carloswapropertysales.com. [02:02:38] Speaker C: And you can also catch me at 041981-5575 and my email is helloshuanthony.com au and you're listening to the Perth Property Bros. With Josh and Carlos. [02:02:51] Speaker B: Carlos and Josh, your voice, your community station. [02:02:55] Speaker A: You are listening to IPL Radio.