Jamon and Paul Cable

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Better mental health. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Only on IPL radio. [00:00:06] Speaker C: And we are back at the Perth Property bros with Carly and Josh. [00:00:12] Speaker D: I like it. [00:00:13] Speaker C: You do? [00:00:13] Speaker D: I like it. Carly and Josh. [00:00:17] Speaker C: Or Josh and Carly. It works either way. [00:00:19] Speaker D: Or Josh and Carly. But today we can be Carly and Josh because last week I had to deal with Carlos and Carly did. [00:00:24] Speaker C: Yeah. All right. Anyway, we have Joe here with us today. So welcome Joe. [00:00:31] Speaker A: Thank you. There you go, having me on this port. [00:00:33] Speaker C: Yeah. So Joe is from Economy Pest management and. Yeah. So today we're going to talk all about pest management, isn't it? [00:00:41] Speaker A: That's correct. [00:00:41] Speaker C: So Joe obviously is from economy Pest management. Yeah. And he's a senior pest control technician with extensive hands on experience in protecting both residential and commercial properties from costly timber and pest damage. Joe's expertise goes beyond termites. His work helps owners and investors protect their most valuable assets. So again, welcome Joe. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:01:05] Speaker C: And I think Joe, obviously Joe is also part of BNI with us, one of our members at BNI Success. And he had a presentation that he did recently and I thought it was quite fascinating. Especially. Do you know Joe actually does beekeeping. Joe does. You know he's a snake catcher. [00:01:25] Speaker D: That was my point. I was about to say. See, I did listen that day. [00:01:30] Speaker C: So what does he not do? Joe. [00:01:33] Speaker D: What doesn't Joe do? [00:01:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:38] Speaker A: Million dollar costume. Only thing I don't do for part of the pest control is shooting at this stage. [00:01:47] Speaker D: Okay. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Shooting, yes. [00:01:50] Speaker C: At this stage. What does that mean? Is it something on the cards? [00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Which means we can control the pigeons or any feral animals by shooting the population down. So something. I don't have the endorsement at this st but I am working on it. [00:02:05] Speaker C: Interesting. What I liked about his presentation was there was a slide that he gave where he does trapping instead of killing. Right. So you actually put the nets and all that below the solar panels on the sides. You do the things for the mice, the possums, I think. So instead of killing it or you actually prevent them from going and doing the damage. Tell us a little bit about that one. Yeah. [00:02:32] Speaker A: More prevention is better than cure, obviously. Less damage. And also we can protect more places big scale rather than just thinking about the small picture. [00:02:43] Speaker C: Do you do that a lot for residential or for commercial? Is mostly for commercial. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Oh, residential is coming in high demand at this stage because we have millions of homes with the solar panels, especially in any regional areas. Down here. Sacred Harbor, Name it. All the suburbs have the pigeon issues at this stage and every house have solar panels, at least 15 to 30 panels of them. So plenty of pigeon issues roosting under the solar panels. It's become popular and popular. More job out there. [00:03:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Anyone wants to get in is a big demand for it. [00:03:22] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:03:23] Speaker C: Yeah. It's interesting. I never actually thought about it or never knew about it. The only time was when I actually had this issue with a client of mine and we obviously we solved it in a different way. But then when Joe came on and did the presentation. Oh my God. Joe should have what. [00:03:39] Speaker D: What I took away from your presentation, Joe, was the silver spikes on the roof. I've never actually known what they for now I do. I learned something that day. [00:03:49] Speaker C: Really. [00:03:50] Speaker D: I didn't know what they were for. [00:03:51] Speaker C: I was like, oh, decoration. Yep. [00:03:55] Speaker A: That's actually helping beds not landing on any surfaces. So definitely that's a good big way to help in a lot of our commercial properties and residential properties as well. Majority of the cases are benefit for the commercial sectors because they have for example supermarkets anywhere that you have the food premises food or corrosion itself on their roof. [00:04:17] Speaker D: That's where we saw outside of Grilled. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Yes. [00:04:19] Speaker D: And I was like, huh. [00:04:21] Speaker C: I think. I think you get it a lot on the seaside as well because I think the droppings from seagulls are quite corrosive, isn't it? [00:04:29] Speaker A: That's correct. [00:04:29] Speaker C: Especially that's why they. They tend to put all this preventive to try and avoid them in the certain areas. [00:04:34] Speaker A: That's right. So now we talked about it. Now you start seeing everywhere there's a problem. [00:04:39] Speaker D: Literally that is what exactly what's going on. [00:04:42] Speaker C: And you know who to call, isn't it? [00:04:43] Speaker D: Yes, exactly. [00:04:44] Speaker A: Always here to help. [00:04:45] Speaker C: There you go. [00:04:46] Speaker D: For me, Joe, I like, you know, being semi rural, two and a half acres. We obviously see, you know the standard. The ants, not so much termites where we are rabbits. Not as many birds say than is in the city. But for us is spiders, millipedes and the. Not the millipedes. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Earwigs. [00:05:07] Speaker D: All the earwigs as well. Yep. And the millipedes like that just come in after all the rain. [00:05:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:05:14] Speaker D: So that for us is what we see. But for I guess prevention and I do need to get you down to come and have a look. But yes, spiders is the main thing for me. Is that what you see a lot of more residential as well? [00:05:30] Speaker A: That's right. Yeah. Any semi rural areas we have major infestation of some Portuguese millipede at this time of the year. Mainly we have mulch around the property and we are all environmentally friendly guys. Right. So we're Trying to protect our garden beds and nice make a nice water saving. It's also thriving opportunity for the other insects as well. Crawling insects like millipedes, earwigs, all those can harborage and they can also nicely make their more homes for themselves. So definitely it's a good for us as a business owner. We can get more business done as well. [00:06:09] Speaker D: So what can I do as a short term process until I get you out? I've googled it and there's no. There's nothing. [00:06:17] Speaker C: Find the tallest chair there. [00:06:18] Speaker A: Cardi Portuguese millipede. If you are talking about you stop all the outside light. For example. For example. Or even if you have indoor lights make sure you have the blinds down. So there is no lights around the perimeters of the house at the night time. So they won't be attracted. Obviously millipeds are attracted to their own the lights around the property. So if you eliminate that issue. So you also have them. They aren't happy in the garden beds itself rather than stay in their lane. Yeah. They are around the property itself or they won't be crawling all around the walls. [00:06:53] Speaker D: Perfect. All right. Staying down. [00:06:56] Speaker C: Well, this is a good segue actually. We started off really strong already. Let's start with the basics a little bit. Why inspection. So you're telling you know you do pest inspection. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about them and why. It's very important, you know, especially when you're buying a property. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Oh yes. Termites are secretive invasive animal. Obviously they do damage quite a lot. For me I have seen thousand dollar to forty thousand dollar damages on the houses my with my own eyes. [00:07:23] Speaker D: Wow. [00:07:25] Speaker A: So that's a significant amount for someone especially they are not covered by home insurance. We all are under impression that all these damages has been taken care of by doing our home insurance. But in fact it's not. So that's why all these companies, our insurance companies come into play. So for individual $40,000 lost is a big and plus it's not accommodating. The trade is to come and damage repair the damages and all the other stress come with it. That's another thing that you need to deal with as well. Sometimes I have a house in Palmeira. A lady had $40,000. She engaged the building I inspected to come and organize the inspection. And then the buildings. Oh they actually they come from the insurance company and they said no, we can't do anything about it because the termite damage and poor lady has to vacate the whole house. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:21] Speaker D: Was that in the roof they took. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Was on the complete roof issues. Yeah, See that's something can be really bad for someone, definitely. [00:08:30] Speaker D: And especially, you know, then you've got to, like you said, vacate the house, find the tradie, get a quote, then get the tradie back and then get the work done. That's hard enough in itself. [00:08:42] Speaker C: It's a lot of stress. [00:08:43] Speaker A: So I have actually calculated all my clients have come through the damages. So they save that money for not doing the inspection, not intentionally doing it, but same time they forgot about business and things like that. 20 years they start save that money. Basically that one day you spend on all damages happen, you know, that's quite devastating as well. [00:09:05] Speaker D: Definitely even like your home is, you know exactly that it's your home to then have to vacate, go somewhere else. You know, it's messes up, routine messes up. You know, potentially if you work from home or not. It's so much. [00:09:20] Speaker A: And these days we're talking about half a million dollar house. Majority of the properties are sitting on the median price is half a million. And you know, we're talking about the million dollar. Half a million dollar investment or prevention wise is less than 2000$. [00:09:36] Speaker D: Yeah, we were even talking about that just before medium prices. [00:09:39] Speaker C: 800,000 in the moment. [00:09:41] Speaker A: So it's interesting why we not doing it. So everyone has a car insurance. It's very important. We do have the sort of termite management system in place. Yes, definitely. That's also saved money down the line. Also less stress for your family. [00:09:58] Speaker C: So termites. Is termites the only one to look out for. [00:10:01] Speaker A: We do have a border activity, European house border activity is predominantly. [00:10:06] Speaker C: That's the big one at the bottom moment, isn't it, that all the councils are looking at. [00:10:10] Speaker A: EHP is another one. EHP is more bigger than short haul borrower. Department of Primary Industries. They are interested in EHP and I have actually have an article posted on that path home in Wilson found about 24 holes and is and the Department of Primary Industries even come out to the property and investigate as well. [00:10:33] Speaker C: Really? Wow. [00:10:33] Speaker A: Yes, that's actually. We have actually on our website as well that story I put on as well. [00:10:39] Speaker C: Amazing. So you mentioned something in your presentation. If there's a particular termite you need to call the authorities in. Yeah. Is that the one? [00:10:49] Speaker D: That's the Bora Bora. [00:10:50] Speaker C: That's the Bora. The wood Bora. Yeah. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Same as a short haul Bora. [00:10:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:54] Speaker A: So EHP is also under survival and surveillance with the Department of Primary Industries. So you do see now I'm telling you. So now you're gonna start seeing this sign everywhere. If you have seen this small signs everywhere for the short hauler biosecurity quarantine process. Same as EHP also posted in the many roads. One particular in stock road if you are driving that way you can see there at the client all this sign outside on the road to make a public awareness to understand this. If you see any sign of it let them know. [00:11:28] Speaker C: There's like a lot of the. I think the prison down the Acacia prison and stuff. All the you know it's always surrounded by wood. The you know the trees and stuff. All of them were burned down saying that you know we had this activity that same along the road and it was also a big sign saying don't take the wood from this area. [00:11:46] Speaker A: Yes. [00:11:46] Speaker C: Make sure to leave it around there. [00:11:48] Speaker A: That's connected. [00:11:48] Speaker D: Yeah. I've even yeah seen I think it was even on the freeway like coming here, coming south. There's a. One of the. The light signs that like flashes and changes and stuff about borers. So it must be. [00:12:02] Speaker C: Yeah so it's quite a big big thing. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Quarantine. They take everything very seriously and they do have a blue zone, red zone. They do put up anything like that happen and we have restrictions to take any timbers away from that area and you get fined and also so they do take it. [00:12:21] Speaker D: Wow. [00:12:23] Speaker A: Think about them. They have the authority to come in your property to inspect they with without even giving you warning. So how strict they are. So the quarantine is a big part of our pest control. [00:12:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:12:34] Speaker A: So we are only small guys doing the small jobs around the earth. The quarantine is a big level. [00:12:40] Speaker D: Yes. It'd be like the. Like the volunteer firefighters and defense. Right. [00:12:45] Speaker C: Yeah yeah. [00:12:46] Speaker D: Defus do all of the. The bigger burns out in the hills and stuff like that. Whereas your like your local fireies are doing the one like the flies in each shire. Whereas DFUs are like everywhere. [00:12:57] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:12:59] Speaker D: But no there you go. What about what I've got a question for you. What is the most peculiar insect or pest that you have found at a house in an inspection? I bet you've got some juicy stories. [00:13:18] Speaker A: Oh yes. [00:13:20] Speaker C: Today we want to just hear juicy stories. [00:13:25] Speaker A: I don't know it's a peculiar or not but most of the pest control doesn't companies or the technician themselves they don't want to take on this job. If you come across anyone has a live right living in the house. [00:13:40] Speaker C: Really? Why? Yeah that's interesting. Why would they not take the Job. [00:13:44] Speaker A: Obviously you have to catch the live. Right. That's going to be a big challenging job. So I had a. One of. The lady called me once and she called about 12 different companies and nobody wants to take that job on board. [00:13:59] Speaker C: That's interesting. [00:14:00] Speaker A: Yeah, she had. She has managed to drop their rats inside the house in her pantry, but nobody wants to come and catch it. [00:14:07] Speaker C: Oh, to take it away, you mean. [00:14:08] Speaker D: Take it away. [00:14:09] Speaker A: She's. This is a live rat we talking about. [00:14:11] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Nobody wants to catch it. Nobody wants to touch the live rat. Even they are licensed technicians. But nobody wants to touch it. No company wants. I do have that Google review given by the lady and it's already in my website as well. Or I'll Google reviews itself. You can see it's challenging because they. Once they are in the pantry and he got a lot of stuff in there and catching the live rat from that, it's not easy. [00:14:38] Speaker D: Yeah, I've got a new catchphrase for you, right. No, no. Joe from Economy Pest Management, he catches rats. [00:14:46] Speaker C: He catches rat catcher. [00:14:52] Speaker D: Mice and rats are just a big. From me. No, thank you. [00:14:57] Speaker C: All right, let's go for a little bit of a break, shall we, before we get into the juicier bits? Yeah. All right. You're listening to the Perth Property Bros with Josh and Carly. [00:15:07] Speaker B: More music, better Mental health only on IPL Radio. [00:15:15] Speaker E: I'm gonna have myself a real good time. I feel al and the world turning inside out air floating around in ecstasy. So don't stop me now. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Don'T stop me. [00:15:45] Speaker E: Cause I'm having a good time. Having a good time. Shooting star Leaping through the sky like a tiger Defying the laws of gravity I'm a racing car Passing like letting a diver. I'm gonna go, go, go there's no stopping me. I'm running through the sky 200 degrees. That's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit. I'm traveling at the speed of light. I wanna make a supersonic man out of you. Stop me now. I'm having such a good time. I'm having a ball. Stop. If you wanna have a good time Just give me a call. Stop. Stop me now, a good time. [00:16:35] Speaker C: Stop. [00:16:36] Speaker E: Yeah, good time. I don't wanna stop at all. 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And you're so vain you probably think this song is about you. You're so vain I bet you think this song is about you, don't you? Don't you? Don't you? I had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee? Clouds in my coffee. And you're so fame. We probably think this song is about you. You're so famous. I bet you think this song is about you, don't you? Don't you? When I hear you went up to Saratoga and your heart naturally won. Then you flew your liget up to nova Scotia to see the total eclipse of the sun. When you're where you should be all the time and when you're not, you're with some underworld spy or the wife of a close friend. Wife of a close friend. You're so f. You probably think this song is about you. You're so. I bet you think this song is about you, don't you? Don't you, Don't. [00:26:27] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. [00:26:31] Speaker B: IPL radio. [00:26:33] Speaker D: And welcome back to the property bros with Carly and Josh. [00:26:37] Speaker C: Kali and Josh. Yes. [00:26:40] Speaker D: That was a dedication for my amazing friend Carlos. [00:26:44] Speaker C: Yes, Carlos, I hope you're listening. There's so many dedications coming your way, man. I think there's a few more on the horizon. [00:26:51] Speaker D: We've got a few more up our sleeve. [00:26:55] Speaker C: All right. And we have been talking to Joe from economy. Economy, Pests. And obviously we're talking everything. Pest inspections today. And obviously we've heard a few stories. And we love to hear all these horror stories that you may have. [00:27:08] Speaker D: You actually just had a phone call during the break there, Joe. [00:27:12] Speaker A: Yes, I had, actually. One of the residents in Villaji had a major problem with the termites. And he bought the property 11 months ago. Inspector did the inspection on that time. He didn't pick up any of the activity he had in the house at this stage. [00:27:28] Speaker D: So he settled with live timber pests. [00:27:31] Speaker A: That's correct. [00:27:31] Speaker D: In the roof. [00:27:32] Speaker A: In the roof. And I went to the roof and then I have active termites in the roof. And then also they lost their whole structural door frame in the master bedroom. [00:27:41] Speaker D: Oh my gosh. So they've really like put in a punch, so to speak. [00:27:45] Speaker A: So now we've got to eradicate the termite problem first. Then only we can do the damage. Damage afterwards and then still have to go back to the hood at the inspection and all that sort of scenarios as well. So that's the whole reason it's important to have experienced person doing the inspection. Not only just doing the inspection. It doesn't make that. We can call it pest control. Sorry, temper pest inspection. Or you want to call it professional pest control inspection. [00:28:12] Speaker D: So is there any. I guess so say, for example, this situation, is there any recourse for the person that did in fact do the inspection? [00:28:22] Speaker A: Yeah, they can go back to the company and claim this. Definitely they can. Who did it and they'll be responsible for it and they'll be. The company will be able to go through their insurance company and then obviously, yes, the damage can be replaced or the money can be refunded. But again, now the damage is done. Yeah. So these are the things that I advocate more of a pest controller company. Why they need to lift their game and why need to be important. So most important of the qualities, service providing to the customers. So then that means the customer get the right service and also they don't have any of the stress. [00:29:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:01] Speaker A: It's going through in their life. Especially now the person, the family is having a new baby on the way. So imagine that is already stressful time enough and that family is going through. And he's one of the famous musicians in Australia too. So he has to go away as soon as the baby's birth is finished and it's all gonna be rollercoaster, you know, it's hard on. [00:29:22] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:29:23] Speaker A: So he can understand stress. Stress is more valuable. The quality time, it's all in. It's been fed with that. [00:29:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Interesting. [00:29:30] Speaker D: It's like what we were saying earlier, you know, it's another layer of the cake. [00:29:34] Speaker C: Correct. Correct. Yeah. That'd be good to ask Paul's perspective on that as well. [00:29:38] Speaker D: Definitely. [00:29:39] Speaker A: Yes. 100. I'm pretty sure he has a lot of stories to tell. [00:29:41] Speaker D: Oh, he would. [00:29:42] Speaker C: Both of you will, man. Don't worry. But I've heard. So obviously I've got something interesting you know, you hear a lot, obviously after listening and talking to you about it as well. I think it'll be good for the show. You know, you can look at a wall like the walls that we look. Looking at now. It looks normal, but you don't really know until you go in time tap into it. Right now, I've heard a lot of stories of, you know, you're looking at the wall, you might see a weird bulge or you know something's wrong there and then you're going to touch it and suddenly it bursts open and out spills all the termites and everything like that. [00:30:15] Speaker D: Oh, you're actually giving me like the worst. [00:30:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:19] Speaker A: That quite often come across this Rockingham area, for example, that I had done the work previously in commercial warehouses. You think everything metal and metal structures, metal frame, timber, concrete floor. But they do have quite often have penetrations in between all the concrete slabs. And they do have the timber pallet sitting on right on top of that penetrations. So as soon as the people move the pallet, you can see millions of termites infested as well. So even with this material that we have modern device available, that our device available to understand where underneath any of the surface how their activity we need to find, we can actually look for all these key areas. That's what all the 10 years experience in the industry makes it. We are not looking all the surface at the same time. We're doing the thorough inspections same time. We are more focusing on the key areas where we're going to find those sort of. This is all come with experience only. [00:31:20] Speaker C: That's good. [00:31:20] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:31:21] Speaker C: Yeah. I think there's a real need for it, obviously. Now tell us a little bit about like termites and how they actually work. All right, so now you've got a single termite has been introduced into a house. [00:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker C: How do they work and from there, how long does it take to, you know, be a proper problem and what are the signs you kind of have to look out for? [00:31:43] Speaker A: That is a very common question. Josh and I come across that many times. Think about the bees. It's easier for me to explain how the termite family and structure work. One single termite can't survive. So it has to come with obviously the whole family. They have the queen allied and workers, soldiers, all this as a complement together, then only they can survive the whole colony. So if you think about the bees outside, they, they are the workers. Termites outside foraging food, foraging wood, and then bring it back to their nest and then feeding others. Same with the Bees, same ants. It's the same family structure. So that is, that is an easy way for me to explain. Termites have the same family structure. [00:32:26] Speaker D: I was actually going to ask that. Is there a queen termite like a queen bee? [00:32:31] Speaker A: Yes, Queen termite lays the eggs. That's all have an all family. She does, she does a mate with other allieds and other termites and then obviously all she does is produce the. [00:32:44] Speaker D: Eggs, produces the babies. [00:32:46] Speaker C: So it's similar to a bee. [00:32:49] Speaker D: Pretty much same, yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker A: Yep. Same family structure. [00:32:52] Speaker D: But queen termite doesn't have the same ring to it as queen bee, does it? [00:32:55] Speaker C: Let's be real, 100%. [00:32:56] Speaker A: So every, every bees, if you think about every bees have. They're all in the family and she does the same thing since termite does the same thing. So workers termites will forage the food. That's all it does. [00:33:07] Speaker C: So a question for you. So obviously a B queen bee. If you take the queen bee and you put it from A and you put it in B, everything follows and goes. Does it apply to termites? [00:33:16] Speaker A: Yes. That's why it's important when we do eradication of termites, make sure we do the proper chemical applied. We're not actually killing the clock here infesting. We actually using the workers to forage the chemicals back to the nest because they know where they come from. They take it home, they will be taking it. So we're not actually killing. It's the same with most people in residential properties do the same mistake in iron treatment. Ants have the same family structure. What they do is they surface spray. So what they can find in local supermarkets or wherever they can local hardware shops, they apply that. What they does is killing the surface ants. So same with the termites. If you've seen it, they disturb it or they kill that surface. You have to wait for that other workers to come back to that area. Then only we can apply the real chemical or real strategies to eliminate the whole colony. They also put in other people's risk because by that time termites been disturbed or somebody is paid. That also means termite has been habitat lost in there. So they have to move on to one place to another to look for a better place. They are not been threatened by other invading of humans or any other activities. [00:34:31] Speaker D: You're right. There you go. [00:34:35] Speaker C: Interesting. [00:34:36] Speaker D: It is definitely so turbines is one. [00:34:38] Speaker C: What else do you see when you go off for pest inspection? [00:34:42] Speaker A: More common common issues in WA or Perth region or anywhere in Perth is rodents are the main issues after termites, cockroaches is another one. Spiders is very common in residential properties. Irons big one. [00:34:57] Speaker C: When you say spiders you're talking about red bags. Yep. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Redbacks. Anyone has an enclosed garage they are definitely one or two always there. [00:35:06] Speaker D: Wow. [00:35:06] Speaker A: Anyone has a shed with the store goods. Plenty of red guys. Redbacks. [00:35:10] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:35:11] Speaker A: They don't really like the height. They're always on the ground. If you are looking for a red back then that is also put your pet in risk as well. If you have a dogs or cat or kids they are the areas that kids can go and test the. Oh yeah, I want to take that toys from the corner. [00:35:26] Speaker D: The bike or something. [00:35:27] Speaker C: I remember. I remember Joe was at my house and he started spraying and all the spiders just started coming out front of nowhere. [00:35:32] Speaker D: I'll say that not it's like arachnophobia right out of my house or I just run down the other end screaming down the hallway. [00:35:42] Speaker A: Rodents also play a vital part destroying a lot of product in the commercial sectors. So that's another reason most of the commercial properties wants our services regularly done. The reason because they have stored goods damaged by rodents. They can't sell it anymore. All that is there losing their reputation for the business. Yeah. Productivity lost as well. [00:36:03] Speaker C: Infections so much. [00:36:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. You know even thinking rodent play a vital role destroying how half of our food resources from the port itself. If you think about the wheat port itself start from there all the way to the our consumer product. We get to the shelf. So it's very predominantly cockroaches. Is another one large one the last American cockroaches or European cockroaches. They all can be in our fine in homes. [00:36:32] Speaker C: It's the. You know from moving from Malaysia is the first time I've seen roaches that doesn't have wings. [00:36:39] Speaker D: Oh don't. [00:36:42] Speaker C: Sorry. Oh that's crazy. And yeah that's quite a bit, isn't it? [00:36:49] Speaker A: Definitely. [00:36:49] Speaker D: That's quite the ratio. [00:36:51] Speaker A: Big list we can think about. Yeah. [00:36:53] Speaker C: And do you need credentials for each one to eliminate them or is it like one covers? [00:36:59] Speaker A: All right. No one pest control license will apply to all the pest we can treat. Apart from bed management and the fumigation itself. Everything else is under the one license. But again being expert in that scenario you have to go through through a lot of experience without inspecting and treating those sort of scenarios. It can be different German cockroaches you for. For you Joshua, you may think they are cockroaches. For us a technician there are four different species of cockroaches yeah. Different behavior. They have a different habitat. They have food source, different foods of harboring or foraging habitat. Things like that is different. Then only we can apply all that scenarios as well. So also German cockroaches treatment is totally different to American cockroaches. [00:37:50] Speaker D: I was about to ask that. Is it a different process to then eradicate it and you know the cockroaches are nests as well. [00:37:58] Speaker A: Yes, that's right. [00:38:00] Speaker D: So is it. Yeah. A different process for whatever species it is and then it's on like with your experience to then determine what it is and where they are? [00:38:10] Speaker C: Yes. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Like taking your car to your mechanic, detective. Yes, same. There's a lot of components in the car engine. If I don't know where to tap. It's the same with finding a cockroach nest. So if you're not knowing what species they are, we don't know where they're coming, where they are nesting. So then only we can apply the treatment afterwards. So this is all the reason we need to know what species we are dealing with. Same with the termites as well. So looking after the different species of termites, they can be tricky. Some of the species and to other ones. So. [00:38:45] Speaker C: So what you're saying is if we do find something, it's better to probably catch one, take a. And take a photo. Take a photo? Yes. For Kylie's sake. We'll take a photo and then we'll. So that we can actually show you. [00:38:58] Speaker A: Yes. [00:38:58] Speaker C: So you know what to actually do do. [00:39:00] Speaker A: That's correct. [00:39:00] Speaker C: In that kind of. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Or if you can also if you can have a sticky tape at home, just a capture. Obviously if you can spray it or capture it in the tissues and then stick it on the sticky tape until your professional comes and show them. This is what I found. And where do you find these are. Helps us a lot easier to manage that problem. [00:39:20] Speaker D: Okay. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Faster. [00:39:21] Speaker C: Interesting. Wow. [00:39:22] Speaker D: I guess one question I do have as well before we go to a break. [00:39:27] Speaker C: Yep. [00:39:27] Speaker D: Timber pest barriers. How often should you update these and have them checked if you don't have one or get one installed if you don't have one. [00:39:37] Speaker A: Okay. Time management system. Obviously we're talking about the drill and inject every five years to eight years, depending on the chemical that you use. Some of the product we offer it up to 10 years as well, with which is a combination. [00:39:52] Speaker D: Wow, that's a long time. [00:39:53] Speaker A: That's right. Which is a combination. But again, every 12 months. Regardless. You done the termite management system. Still, every household have the responsibility of looking after the property in every 12 months. That is big. That's a norm for NWA we all sitting in the same risk home. [00:40:14] Speaker D: Absolutely. [00:40:14] Speaker A: So I have my house with the two managing system. So I know it's better off rather than one system. Every system we install we have the limitations because of the structure of the building or the landscape itself. So it's better off having a second system in place, a backup plan. That's correct. Plan B always. We all know that we have plan A also. Plan B. Better than just one. [00:40:38] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%. Well, that's been an interesting discussion, wasn't it? All right, let's go into a little bit more of a break. I think we hear Paul Cable who's backing in there and we're going to get him on as well. And you're listening to the Perth Property Bros with Carly and Josh. Yeah. And this song is for our friend Carlos, who is obviously on a holiday. You know, some of us here are working. So this song's dedicated to you, my man. It's called Escape the Pina Colada song. [00:41:12] Speaker B: More music, Better Mental health. Only on IPL Radio. [00:41:19] Speaker C: And we're back on the show with Kali and Josh. I keep saying Kali for stair. I'm so good when I do it with Carlos. [00:41:30] Speaker D: I told you. Our guest last week told you. It's the Kali show. [00:41:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. All right. Anyway, we are. We're back with Paul Cable and obviously some of you may know Paul has been on our show before afternoon. Yes. So Paul, obviously. I'll just read a bit. Paul is the director of Broad Building Inspection with decades of experience across UK and Australia and obviously his everything. Building inspection, isn't it? [00:41:55] Speaker B: That's great. [00:41:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:56] Speaker B: Pre purchase new construction. Yeah, the whole. A whole lot. Including termite inspections, which is interesting because the difference between carrying out termite inspections and treating the termites is down to our friend Josh here. [00:42:15] Speaker C: So hang on, Paul, I think your mic may not be working. Bring it a little bit closer. Let's try that again. [00:42:22] Speaker D: Let's try that. [00:42:23] Speaker C: Okay. [00:42:24] Speaker B: How's that nap? [00:42:26] Speaker C: No, no, it's not working. Well, I'll get Rob on it. [00:42:29] Speaker D: We'll get the tech in. We'll get the tech in. But that's all right. [00:42:32] Speaker C: In the meantime, we'll get into Joe, shall we? [00:42:35] Speaker A: Joe? Yep. [00:42:36] Speaker C: Joe, tell us, tell us a little bit more. So obviously we talked a little bit about you being a bee keeper. Beekeeper, yeah. And you have your own beekeeping farm, is it? You have a few colonies that you have on the above. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Yes. We have to Hives. Yes, which also also we also help the residents if they wants to start beehivers as well. [00:42:59] Speaker C: You do? [00:42:59] Speaker A: Yes, I do. [00:43:00] Speaker C: Oh excellent. [00:43:01] Speaker A: We comes to September, October time. Yeah we got a lot, a lot of bee swarms happening all around Perth. Yeah, that is a natural thing happening and we can't stop. It doesn't happen. That is a bees existency. So that's how only they can survive. Yeah, that's the only the way they can split their home and move on to the new homes as well. [00:43:25] Speaker C: Interesting. Oh wow. [00:43:26] Speaker A: So we have to collect a lot of swamps. [00:43:28] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:43:28] Speaker A: So you have to also help the other people or the bees itself. We need the bees. Without bees we haven't gotten survival for human beings. Right. [00:43:36] Speaker B: 100. [00:43:37] Speaker C: So for those houses obviously with bees and all of them you go in there, you take the queen out and the holding. Yeah. And then you go, you find a place for them. [00:43:47] Speaker A: Yes. And then we put them into the new beehive. So which we have the all the frames sitting in and then they nature them and then feed the sugar a sugar syrup and we rescue them basically. [00:44:01] Speaker C: Interesting. [00:44:02] Speaker D: We've got a few hives around where we are. [00:44:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:44:07] Speaker D: Not like our property but a ranch around like the. The community. Yeah but they love the wattles at the moment. [00:44:13] Speaker A: Oh yes, they love the wattles, yes. Australia, Western Australia particularly we have. We are nourished with Jarrah flowers, red gums. Yeah, Anything is. That's why wa honey is very popular all around the world. [00:44:26] Speaker D: And they do say as well. Well not they do say but this actually happens. I found out that depending on what flower that they're getting the pollen from and the nectar it changes the taste of the honey. [00:44:40] Speaker C: Oh yeah, yes, yes it does. Yeah. [00:44:42] Speaker A: I take my 10 year old son for a harvest and he harvest because we got the flow hive. [00:44:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:47] Speaker A: So you will see all the floor other honeys is not mixed so it comes from the one flow hive to directly into the jar. [00:44:53] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:44:54] Speaker A: So when you have three jars sitting you can see three different colors. [00:44:56] Speaker D: Very different. [00:44:57] Speaker A: So they are very organized animals. So they collect poly natural and nectar from same species of plant and they put them in the same place. [00:45:05] Speaker C: Really? Oh wow. They don't ever mix it. Interesting. Intelligent, isn't it? [00:45:10] Speaker D: There you go. [00:45:10] Speaker A: Very, very clever. [00:45:11] Speaker D: I think we're, we're back on with. [00:45:14] Speaker B: Hopefully you can hear me now. [00:45:16] Speaker C: Can we hear him, Rob? All right. Anyway Paul, let's. So Paul, you obviously you're doing doing building inspection and you also do pest inspection obviously. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So you Know, we combine the building and pests together, and then if we find anything. [00:45:38] Speaker C: No, I still think it's not working. We may have to. [00:45:41] Speaker D: We might need to swap something over here. [00:45:44] Speaker C: That's all right. [00:45:45] Speaker D: Here. Here, Josh, here. [00:45:48] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, sure. [00:45:50] Speaker D: Then you guys can. [00:45:55] Speaker C: Let's try that. [00:45:56] Speaker D: Let's try that. [00:45:59] Speaker C: So anyway, yeah, so Paul obviously has a. Extensive knowledge. He's been in the UK as well. So how many. How many years have you done that in the uk? [00:46:10] Speaker B: Since I was in the building industry. Since I was 16. 16. [00:46:14] Speaker C: Wow. Yeah. [00:46:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Always come. I was one of those return poms, you know, three years in Australia, two years in England, and that kind of thing had it. Building companies in the UK and Australia as well, and running bricklaying teams. So, yeah, vast knowledge of building in general, really. And that's where it comes from. And then moving forward over time, I always say that the trades were not doing the same thing as me. The other bricklayers were basically not performing in the way that they should be at the time and thinking, you know, they get paid the same amount of dollars I do for laying their bricks compared to mine. And that's when. That's kind of where the evolution of me getting into building inspection inspections come from. [00:47:10] Speaker C: Interesting. [00:47:10] Speaker B: And then. And then when my daughter was building a house and I looked after that, so, yeah, it kind of developed through that way. [00:47:19] Speaker C: Interesting. Yeah. So how long you've been doing it now, building inspections? [00:47:23] Speaker B: I think it's six years now. [00:47:25] Speaker C: Six years. Yeah. Yeah. [00:47:26] Speaker B: And yeah, on the committee of inspect wa. [00:47:32] Speaker C: Yes. [00:47:33] Speaker B: Where we like to kind of. Of just have a certain level of quality of inspections and, you know, we're all fully insured as well, which is obviously important. And we work to certain compliance levels and expectations, so we don't pay. Take backenders from real estate agents and people like that, as it's known to happen in the industry. So, yeah, it's. It's a good one going forward to kind of be involved on that. On that level of basically trying to get the industry regulated. Yeah, that's kind of where we're coming from. Yeah, you know, we're kind of trying to work on. On Demas and what have you to bring in regulation for building inspectors. Because it really should be. [00:48:25] Speaker C: I think. I think. Think that's really good because there's a lot of things where we. We talked about and yeah, you know, there's a lot of thing not covered, especially for a buyer, isn't it? So pretty much when you go, if you look at the reware and exchange is always protecting the seller as much as they can. There's not a lot out there for the buyer and I find it really difficult when you're trying to defend your buyer. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's because The Australian Standard 4349.1 of building inspections was set up for the east coast when they've got a 10 day cooling off period. So, you know, they can get their inspector in, they can see that all the roof styles are about to slip off the roof, call it out and they can go back to the seller and say, you know, we want 40 grand off the price or we're walking away. And in wa they just haven't got that option. Whoever gets to look in the roof of a house until we get there and do it and by then it's too late, you know, and they've got, if they've got, if they've got their finance approved, like I basically can't get out the deal, you know, and they've got an extra 40 grand cost to, to face in the very near future and that's where it falls down. But they are rewriting 4349 at the moment, so we'll see what changes it brings in the next 18 months or so when it comes out and hopefully it's a bit more back balanced. [00:49:44] Speaker C: Yeah, I think the market as well is a little bit different, isn't it? Obviously like now I was just telling them earlier where I was looking at this, it came live on Friday and it went under offer on Sunday. There's not a lot of time for due diligence or, you know, like getting somebody to get into the roof and have a look at it or if you were to put that in the contract, they'd be like, well, we'll go to the next person that doesn't have that. [00:50:03] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:50:03] Speaker C: So it's a little bit of a hard one. [00:50:05] Speaker B: It really is. Yeah, it really is. I mean in a perfect world you'd say get your building inspection done. [00:50:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:11] Speaker B: Before you put the offer on a property. [00:50:14] Speaker C: There's a no brainer that one. Yeah, yeah. [00:50:17] Speaker B: But as I say, with a market like this, he's got no chance whatsoever. [00:50:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. I think it's a market driven at the end. Yeah, definitely, definitely. So, yeah, obviously we've been talking about pest inspection all this while with Joe and he's been very informative. It's. There's so many things that he's been seeing, even the whole borers and stuff, which is amazing. Yeah. And obviously you said you do both inspections, isn't it? The building and the pest inspection. Tell us a little bit about that. [00:50:43] Speaker B: Yeah, so basically we carry out pest inspection as well. So when, whereas Joe for instance done a whole pest inspection course, for a better word, we do certain units which just cover timber pests and identifying those and obviously being able to track them, you know, seeing the leads coming into the building or out the ground or seeing them hanging down from the air vents as well before. But what we do then is we identify, you know, the risk of termite attack or if there's any termites there. And then if people want, if we find live termites then we recommend for Joe to go and treat them. I had one the other day actually. You might get where there's white ants in the, in the floors and possibly the walls. And it wasn't even, that was only a building inspection. There was no timber pass inspection involved. You know, it was, it was edging on the side of structural. Because all the stumps were sinking as well. [00:51:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:53] Speaker B: So yeah, so we identify that and we then basically ask the clients, you know, do you want contact with timber pass technician to put in a, you know, treatment or, or a barrier? And then we pass on Joe's details to those people. Joe goes out and, and does his stuff out there. [00:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah, basically. Basically Paul's saying is that how important is the having a thermal inspection for the get go and also how prominent it's according to csro one in three houses in WA how the termite attack more than having a car accident on the road. [00:52:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah, definitely. [00:52:37] Speaker B: And you know it's quite high risk because here the, the, the footings are, the entry, entry points are always hidden in WA because everyone puts garden beds up against the home and whatever. The way they build over east is slightly different where they build on the. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Pads so they have the concrete edge. [00:52:55] Speaker B: Slabs, you can see the slab edge and you can see termite leaves going into the building and stuff like that. And in WA it's always hidden. [00:53:02] Speaker A: So WA building industry is still in premature. Right. So we still need to escalate that problem into different levels. Then only all the tradies understand why is this important to do it. So whereas the Queensland, they all more educated in that sort of scenario because they are done a lot work behind. [00:53:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean another building I went into only a couple of days ago and the back of the bathroom vanity just had some slight marks on it and I just poked it and it all crumbled away. [00:53:34] Speaker C: Ah, there you Go. [00:53:35] Speaker B: And it was all. [00:53:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:36] Speaker B: Eaten out by termites a whole lot, you know. And it's. That's how easy it could be missed if you haven't got the right person doing the inspection as well, you know, because it was just a little, you know, a timber color on just poking through the surface of the finish. [00:53:50] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah. [00:53:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And it just crumbled away. [00:53:54] Speaker C: Interesting. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm only in that location. Nowhere else in the house that I could find. So you know, it was just in that location. Have come up probably through the drainage. [00:54:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Around the side of the drainage pipes and up into that cabinet. [00:54:08] Speaker A: Most of the time I tell the clients the same. You are fortunate to find this evidence of active termites today. Sometimes it could lead to the bigger scale. Now we are fortunate that we found something today. So that would have been lead to the major problem happen later. It's also avoided, you know. So there you go. [00:54:26] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a. [00:54:27] Speaker C: Interesting. So what's the worst like in terms of pest inspections that you found while you're doing your building inspection? It's quite, you know, it's quite out there. Something that you can share with us. [00:54:40] Speaker B: 1, 1 Timber pest inspection was a combined inspection a few years ago was a vacant property in Churro Hill. And I yeah. Actually walked the roof inspecting the roof, then unlocked the house and walked inside and there was termite leads hanging from of air vents. [00:55:03] Speaker C: Really? Yeah. [00:55:03] Speaker B: Coming down about a meter or 1200 down into the room. [00:55:07] Speaker C: Termite lead, did you say? Yeah. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Which is. Which is a tunnel that the termites build. [00:55:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:12] Speaker B: It's like a big long brown straw made out of, you know, mud basically it looks like. [00:55:17] Speaker C: Okay. [00:55:17] Speaker B: And leaves were hanging down. Then there was termite trails across the walls and this, that and the other. So I got my steps out and poked my head to the manhole. I say all the termite ladies running across the ridge and hanger. Hanger beams basically crumbled and fallen on their sides and all around the loft hatch. If I'd have pulled myself up into the roof, it would have all come down everything. [00:55:45] Speaker A: So that's. [00:55:45] Speaker B: That's probably one of the worst. Yeah, but it was vacant. [00:55:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Excellent. So obviously the two rules very similar, isn't it? Yeah. [00:55:54] Speaker B: I mean across over there, you know. But you know, in. In the situation that me and Joshrin for instance works, you know, sometimes we might get even timber pest inspections come in sand loan inspections and we haven't got time. Time to do and stuff. And we'll pass them over for the inspection, you know, to Joe and stuff like that. [00:56:16] Speaker C: So interesting. Yeah, so we were just, just before, earlier we were talking in the show, as we were doing the show, Joe had a call from one of our clients and, and one of his clients was saying that during 11 months ago they did the building and pass inspection obviously by the building inspector. And then as 11 months later they actually found active termites in the part. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Timber. [00:56:43] Speaker C: Yeah, the timber. The roof. Was it the roof or the door frame? [00:56:47] Speaker A: Door frame. It's also late to the timber roof as well. [00:56:50] Speaker C: Yes. And you know, it was quite, quite bad and lots of things happen in that case. So if something like that were to happen, obviously Joe went in and he had to look at it. So if something like that happened, what happens then? If that makes sense? [00:57:02] Speaker B: Well, it depends on, on the whole situation and scenario of events because unfortunately, you know, some people out there might know that they've got termites and put a house up for sale and trying to hide them, which I heard about one builder inspector got pinged. Basically the termites have been in an older house, eaten all the skirtings and around the door frame out. And what the sellers done was they put new beading around the doors, new skirtings and put a house on the market. So those clients bought their home and obviously they went after the building inspector for the termite inspection, not identifying the termites. But in that situation, you know, if someone's going to hide them because we're only allowed to carry out a visual inspection and pre purchase, we can't go and prodding too much. You know, we can hit them with a donger and stuff like that. [00:57:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:00] Speaker B: But obviously if it's been replaced because it was termite damage, you're not going to know until them termites come back through. [00:58:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:08] Speaker B: So you got a very really honorable and really, you know, have your eyes open every window, every timber windowsill and every entry point and you know, just looking for them leads and you know, the leads can probably be easily missed by someone that's not experienced enough or someone that hasn't got the due diligence about themselves to have a good look, you know, and really, you know, someone that just goes, oh yeah, it's all good and signs off on it kind of thing. So you want to have the right people doing the job for sure. [00:58:38] Speaker C: 100%. [00:58:40] Speaker A: That's how important having an experienced personal doing the job when you're purchasing property. Yeah, 100% I did. @ the end of the day, that's what Paul's saying. [00:58:49] Speaker C: Yeah. 100%. So tell us a little bit more than. Paul. Paul. So say in that case where it was kind of missed, how it goes back onto the building inspector then comes. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Down to, you know, him proving that it even wasn't there at the time or that it was concealed on purpose and there was no way he could have identified it because it had been concealed. [00:59:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:16] Speaker B: So you know, you like. We take a lot of photos of everything. So you know, if we've got photos showing of the roof and then all of a sudden our photos, there's no termite lead and three months later you can see the termite leads in there. You can say, well you know, there was none in the roof at the time. You know, that's, that's the starting point. Obviously if they're in the walls and it's pre purchase, we, we can't see them. And one of the downfalls of pre purchase inspections, not inspections, but the system is if, if you got termites in the roof, it's some, a lot of times it's timber framed home. And what when they do the repairs, they repair the roof timbers and maybe that's top plate that's eaten away but no one can see the wall. So nothing's done about the walls, you know, and, and this is, this is a bit of a problem in the industry because as Kalia will tell you, you only repair what you say that, you know, there's no, oh, we need to investigate further and further and further and pull the house apart. So you see if the wall frames have been eaten and stuff like that. So you know, that's a bit of, a, bit of an issue. But that's where it helps to have the right tools. You know, Joe's carries the termite tracker and stuff like that, which a lot better shows up the moisture packages in the walls. So you can see live termite leads and stuff like that. But if it's old damage and it's all dried out, then you can't tell. [01:00:48] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. I was just about to ask that question because I think you use a heat gun as well. [01:00:52] Speaker A: Yeah, we've got the truck which is there. You can detect the heat. [01:00:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:57] Speaker A: And also we got the, that also have the radar penetration that you can penetrate to the majority of the building material. [01:01:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:06] Speaker A: And also we can understand the moisture level because the termites bring the moisture. [01:01:10] Speaker C: Oh really? Yep. But you don't always detect them though. Right. [01:01:14] Speaker A: When we find the suspicious areas, that's where we have to do the major investigation. [01:01:20] Speaker C: Yes. [01:01:21] Speaker A: And then we will Find more problems then in that case that I was explaining then the company was liable for it and they were ready to replace the damage that happened to the client. And obviously I had to wait for my bedding program to finish. Eradication of termites finished. Then only they can touch with my experience as well. When we do the termite inspection, most of the time a lot of things can be picked up by looking at the areas without invasive investment inspection done. This is also come down to the experience, as he said, looking at the key areas. [01:01:55] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting. So look, let's go into a little bit of a break, shall we? We'll get into a bit of a break. We'll try and get Carly's microphone working so she can join into the conversation. She's sitting here. It's my turn, it's my turn. It's just a Joshua now. All right, you're listening to the Perth Property Bros with Josh and Carly. [01:02:18] Speaker A: The best music from the 60s to today. [01:02:22] Speaker B: IPL radio. [01:02:24] Speaker C: And we're back with the Property Bros with Josh and Carly and I think we are good. No, I don't think so. Try that again. [01:02:32] Speaker D: No, we're getting the thumbs up. It's green lights. We're out. We are off. [01:02:37] Speaker C: All right, cool, Precise. [01:02:41] Speaker A: Someone else out now, I think. [01:02:43] Speaker C: All right, so anyway, we are back and obviously we've got Joe our pest inspector and Paul, our building inspector. It'd be nice to have both of you. And the reason we had that was so that we can actually discuss the two different professions, isn't it? Definitely, yes. Oh, wait, before we go there, we actually had a message from one of our audience saying, oh, Joe, thank you very much. It's been amazing and knowledgeable, just amazing. And we had one question from the audience and one of it was spiders. What can they do to prevent spiders? [01:03:21] Speaker A: Good question. Yes. Avoid all the stagnant water. Avoid the flying insects around the property. That's the best way to. They can avoid the spiders. [01:03:31] Speaker C: Flying insects. Oh, yeah, it is. [01:03:33] Speaker A: Mosquitoes, mees. Any flies. Unfortunately we in wa itself we are abandoned with the flies in summer. [01:03:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:42] Speaker A: So that's the whole reason we get a lot more spiders. [01:03:44] Speaker C: Interesting. [01:03:45] Speaker A: If you can control this flying insects, you have less trouble with this spiders. [01:03:49] Speaker C: Excellent. So if you got any more questions for either Joe or Paul, please feel free to Message me on 0419-815-57. I repeat, 0419-815-5575. [01:04:00] Speaker D: Watch the lines blow up now. [01:04:04] Speaker C: All right, take it away, Karlie. [01:04:06] Speaker D: All right. So I think for prospective buyers, right, you know, we're seeing these contracts come in day in, day out, sometimes two, three at a time, sometimes, you know, nine, 11. And then they're getting to that point of, you know, they may not have their team together. So for me, what I generally do is I'll go through the steps, the deadlines, if you will, because, you know, as you both know, they're very time sensitive. You have 10 days, you have five days, whether it's from finance or whether it's from, you know, acceptance. [01:04:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:41] Speaker D: And from that point, I guess, how would the buyer then if employ both of your services to then come in? How do you coordinate? Who do you contact? So what kind of, what happens in the background? [01:04:56] Speaker B: From my perspective, we kind of, in a perfect world, we'd ask clients to contact us as early as possible. You know, we don't charge clients if they cancel on us. So we ask clients, you know, try and get in, get your job scheduled or listed with us as soon as you've got your dates, then we can schedule a job in. But if you, if the, if your offer's not accepted or the deal falls over for some reason, we don't charge clients for that. So we say get in as early as you can. Just gives us more time on that side. Having said that, I've got a really good admin team. So we take jobs on. We say we get a call to the office. I think the fastest we've got a client booked in is about 15 minutes. [01:05:57] Speaker D: Wow. [01:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah. So as soon as the client contacts us, we send out quote options to them. So they got basically three different options of quoting level. They can choose the type of inspection that they want, they approve the quote, then we send them out, basically an invoice, pre inspection agreement and all those kind of things which they can then approve. And as soon as they do that, we'll contact the real estate agent, try and keep. Get a booking through the real estate agent or that sometimes passes on to the tenant or the owner to arrange it direct. And we'll get that locked in and carried out. So we've got quite a seamless process in getting the bookings in and done. But the more time, the better it is for us, of course. [01:06:52] Speaker D: And that's, I think, one of the biggest things. When I have buyers contact, contacting me, saying, oh, Carly, can you have a look at this contract? And then that's when I start those steps. And I think getting people in front or being in front, especially with contracts, is so vital because if you don't do that, you're out, the horse is bolted. [01:07:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:14] Speaker D: So no, that's, that's perfect. And from your perspective, Jo, if you were to be working with Paul on the same job at the same time, what's the, I guess coordination process between the two of you? Like the communication? How do you tee that up? [01:07:29] Speaker A: Yes, similarly, what Paul said, I will be contacting Paul and communicating with Paul more often. And then we'll organize the time and date with a real estate agent or the proposed purchaser or seller in the property, organize that time and date and go along with the same time so the customers doesn't have to, or I think for two times and date. So that also avoid that sort of scenarios. Excellent. That would be our priority as well because obviously it's a pre purchase inspection. It has to be done as soon as possible. [01:07:59] Speaker D: Time is of the essence. Time is of the essence. And we have a question coming in. James in Valdivis, how far do both of you cover for inspections? [01:08:10] Speaker B: So I've got other inspections. We pretty much cover the metro area. [01:08:18] Speaker D: Define metro. Now, Paul, like we were just saying. [01:08:23] Speaker B: I have had Tony up in Jindaly last week, so quite a way up north. We're kind of top out, you know, around that kind of Jindaly area and then out to kind of Greenmount and in the hills. [01:08:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:08:41] Speaker B: Helena Valley, along Kalamanda and. And then down to kind of yonder up south. Yonder up? Yeah, I even went down to Warrenup in those areas, you know, the far end of Manja. So quite, quite a big area. [01:08:59] Speaker D: No, definitely, definitely a, a packed lunch situation I think as well. And what about you, Joe? [01:09:05] Speaker A: We do cover most of the time, Yanchip to Mantra, Amadal to some cases. We have clients that we use, they use our services and they want special inspection done in regional areas. We go up to Lancelin, all the way to Northam. We are ready to do that as well. Yeah. [01:09:23] Speaker D: Wow. See and the, the K's. Geez, you'd go through a lot of fuel with that one. And so with, I guess a rapport that you've prepared, can that give the buyer an upper hand if there is a problem to then go in for price negotiation? [01:09:44] Speaker B: Price negotiation after the fact. It's not really going to happen, you know, because a lot of real estate agents try not to get letters going before finance approval. So you finance if it approves and it kind of is beyond that point. But what you've got is when there's a major structural defect identified or Live termite activity, then that is something that the sellers are responsible for contractually. Yeah, yeah. So then, you know, it's up to the sellers to fix the issue or come to negotiation on it or, or, you know, if they just flat out say no, then it's up to the buyer to say, okay, well, we're going to buy it anyway, or no, we're not buying it, then, you know, well. [01:10:30] Speaker D: They'Re going to walk away. I mean, they've got their five days then, depending obviously what's in the annexure. But the general Rewa annexure is five days and then that's it, either on or off. But I've been seeing this a lot lately, like me personally, where the sellers aren't wanting to get. Get the work done. They'd rather give the credit and be done with it. [01:10:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It seems to be more and more common now. [01:10:53] Speaker D: It's definitely getting up there. But I think with trades being so scarce and then you've got the time frames to get them repaired. I mean, by this point, you know, finance is already approved. We're say two weeks out from settlement. [01:11:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:05] Speaker D: Tradie is trying to get them in two weeks and repair it within two weeks. [01:11:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:10] Speaker D: Got Buckley's. Really? [01:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it is possible. [01:11:13] Speaker C: Possible. [01:11:14] Speaker D: But I mean, if you, you need it done by obviously a qualified trade, not a general handyman or something like that, it needs to be, you know, good work. And yeah, it's. It's very difficult. I'm seeing that a lot. I think I've seen it even just today, twice. [01:11:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, we've got trades that we associate with, you know, especially roof carpenters. We can normally get to site fairly, fairly quick. [01:11:40] Speaker C: They're. [01:11:41] Speaker B: When I say, associated with. We're not, you know, indirect. Yeah, Indirect association. Yeah, yeah. Sub bids that we recommend kind of thing. And, you know, they work pretty well for us. We can get them out as a site. In fact, you know, sometimes I feel. Finish an inspection, the sellers are on the site. I'll have a chat with them. So you've got major structural defects in the roof. Major. It's not necessarily, you know, a massive thing. It can be easily remedied. I've got a guy if you want his number and. And we can get that organized before I've even left. Left their home, you know, that's the way that I kind of prefer to work. It just helps everyone out and helps the process go through, you know. [01:12:23] Speaker D: Definitely. I think even like a lot of buyers, they see live termites, they freak out, they think they have, is going to fall down. They'll see, you know, minor defects which, you know, you can't, we can't really do a lot about. It's deemed as maintenance. Right. So they read a report, they see all these photos, they see all these big words and they freak out because they think that the house that they've bought is a lemon. [01:12:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:12:49] Speaker D: You know, it's like you take a car to a mechanic and then you get all these, you know, lists of things. They freak out. So how, Joe, how would, how do you, I guess speak to that client then and say, look, it's, everything's all right, there's ways around it. Like how do you facilitate, I guess, that conversation? [01:13:07] Speaker A: Okay. The customer has to give a. First of all, first and foremost, call the inspector and understand what level, intensity of the damage happened. Then obviously they can explain to you this is not a major structural problem. Then the, then they understand what can be done to them. Prevention wise or curative wise. Then they can understand this is okay, easy to be done. It's not a. Okay, it's a wake up call. You gotta do something as soon as we put the keys in our hand, something they have to be done as well, as soon as they have the opportunity to do it, of course. [01:13:42] Speaker D: And then it's also that prevention thing, right? If there is live termites, then you get the barrier system put in. You then maintain that you then have all these like next steps, if you will. Whereas I guess with more your side of things, Paul, it's fixed, repaired, done, dusted, See later. It's, it's not an insect or a, you know, something that you're dealing with. It's, it's wood. It's done, it's fixed, it's repaired. End of conversation. [01:14:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. You know, you know, further to what I was saying before about, you know, the trades, if our trades are used, trays we associate with are used to do the repairs, then I'm happy to sign off on the repairs by photo. You know, it's not, no need for a re inspection and that's the free service, you know, if I'm required to go to site. So if, if it's carried out by someone I don't know, then I need to go to site to sign it off and obviously that's then going to cost money. Many years ago now I had done an inspection, I think it was East 5th park or somewhere, and I was sent photos and it was actually the client that wasn't happy because I'd worded it, you know, from what I can tell from the photos, it seems to be repaired. But there's no guarantees because I haven't carried out an inspection. He was uncomfortable with that. Got me to go out there and what these traders have done was cut bits of timber and lean them in place and walked out charging 700. And I went and I was just picking up those bits of timber just laying in for the photos in the roof, you know. Oh my gosh, it was shocking. [01:15:16] Speaker D: Ready for the fire. [01:15:17] Speaker B: Shocking. [01:15:18] Speaker D: Ready for the fire. Oh my goodness. And that's, I guess another thing. Luckily with the rewinder it does specify they need to be qualified, you know, tradespeople, which is extremely, you know, you know, it needs to be that way. It can't just be, you know, Joe Blow from down the road and you know, he'll put a few nails in and that'll be it kind of thing. [01:15:40] Speaker B: That's it. [01:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And also customers can reach out to our pest control companies or other professionals like us and we can maintain their property as well, whatever it happens, if it's recorded and if it's evidence there. We can also help them for the future. [01:15:53] Speaker D: Not happening again. [01:15:55] Speaker A: Yes. [01:15:55] Speaker D: Maintenance plan. [01:15:56] Speaker A: Once you buy the car, you still have to put the fuel, you still have to put the oil. Everything has to be same with the residential properties as well. [01:16:03] Speaker D: Yeah, definitely. And I mean I think some people, it may not be, you know, within the budget or the means, you know, cost of living, price of the property, etc. Etc. It's. Yeah, sometimes it's, it's not always an option to be able to do, but if you can, like it's your biggest asset. Right. You're not going to do that this unless you're an investor every day of the week. So you know, putting those things in place and having a maintenance plan and I'm sure you do the same Paul, like going through a maintenance plan. So you need to, you know, check your gutters here, do this there and. [01:16:36] Speaker B: That'S what a lot of the report is made up of. It's maintenance items. You know, you're saying this needs to be repaired, you know, gutters needs to be cleaned on a regular basis and these type of things and people don't realize the damage to that. You know, not cleaning the gutters can cause, you know, when they all rust out, when they all black back flow over the eaves and the, all the eaves is black and moldy and people like why aren't the gutters working, you know, and stuff. Like that the downpipes get full of leaves and then they rust and pop and you know, there's so many things that could be easily resolved just by that ongoing maintenance. And like you say you, you have to take care of, you know, if you buy a car, you've got to take care of it, otherwise it's going to end up a rusty heap. [01:17:18] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:17:18] Speaker A: In other words, Paul was saying is that we don't have the crystal balls in our hands. But same time we can guide you residents in a way that we have come across this last 10 years by working in the industry. Knowledge that put it together in that report. Okay, this is a priority, this is a medium priority or the next one is a crucial thing to do straight away. Things like that would help them long run as well. Definitely. [01:17:40] Speaker D: Oh absolutely. And it's, it's something that when you do employ your building and pest inspectors again, ask those questions. I know I say this every time that I'm on here, but ask the questions. If you're not sure, ask even as a kid, right. You know, if you don't know something. But why, but why? But why bum. But why dad, why did you know the chicken cross the road like all those guys. So ask the questions and even, and I'm sure like I'm, I'm happy to do it. You know, even a client just calls for a general question and if it's not me, I point them in the right direction. I'm sure the both of you would do the same. [01:18:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:19] Speaker A: It's a bit complicated with a pre purchase. Most of the time customers are not there and we're just putting out the report to the customers and they're not really been educated or not delivered that message. Apart from the message itself in the black and white paper, we're not even showing them. Okay. This is what happening and only the way we can present it in by pictures and showing them. So that's only one expression. We can deliver that message to the customers as well. [01:18:44] Speaker D: But I think it's that trust as well. You know, you speak to the client, you get to know them a little bit, not so much. You know, is it their first home, are they, when are they moving in? Or if it's not not their first, is it their second family home, whatever. And you know, you then get that rapport, you, you work together and whatever needs to be sorted out, you sort it out. Right? [01:19:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:05] Speaker D: So definitely no, I think that's really good. All right, well that is everything I think but what I will do is we'll just do a quick little changeover of headphones and we'll pop it back to Josh. [01:19:22] Speaker C: That's collaboration right there. Look at that. I was a bit quiet because we are down one headphone. But anyway, that was really insightful there, Paul and Joe. So thank you again. I think we learned a lot. But I'm going to ask you my rapid fire questions now. All right? So we're going to get both of you to answer it. Okay? Are you ready for it? All right, Worst pets, pest damage you have ever seen. We'll start with you, Joe. [01:19:49] Speaker A: Termites. [01:19:50] Speaker C: Termites, yeah. Paul. Oh, yeah. All right. Most commonly overlooked issues. [01:20:00] Speaker A: Rodent problems. [01:20:01] Speaker C: Rolling problems. Yeah. [01:20:02] Speaker B: Cleaning the gauss. [01:20:05] Speaker C: Actually that's really true, isn't it? Like I. My reason. I think that's the one we had. And we had gutters issue and it was all blocked. [01:20:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:12] Speaker C: And there's one of those that's really hard to find. Doing inspections. Yeah. [01:20:15] Speaker B: People just don't understand the importance of keeping the gutters clean. And it really is. [01:20:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it's interesting. All right, best advice to a first time home buyer. Joe. [01:20:26] Speaker A: Do the professional to do. Do the job. Start with the inspections. [01:20:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:20:32] Speaker B: Get a building inspection. [01:20:33] Speaker C: Get a building inspection. Always take the box. Always take the box. Yeah. Now, termites or water damage? Water. What's scarier? [01:20:44] Speaker A: Definitely termites for me, Paul. [01:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah, termites. Because we're in Walmart damage. Could be if you had tim of frames home and you know, you got wood rot in your walls and stuff like that. It could be, but we don't get too much of that in wa, so. [01:21:00] Speaker A: To be honest, like adding it. Having a chicken salt and chicken salt, you know, extra flavor into the salt. If you have the wood decay sitting there. It's also attract for tamas. [01:21:13] Speaker C: All right. One tool you never leave home without Joe. [01:21:19] Speaker A: My mobile phone and torch. [01:21:22] Speaker C: Mobile phone and torch, yeah. The same day. All right. [01:21:27] Speaker B: Ladder is helpful as well. [01:21:29] Speaker C: What suburb has surprised you lately? [01:21:34] Speaker A: Spearwood. [01:21:34] Speaker C: Spearwood, yeah. Oh, interesting. [01:21:41] Speaker B: I don't know, it's a tricky one, I guess. Not a suburb, but the suburbs, the way they're just popping up out the ground. There's no suburbs. You know, you go past one month and it's, you know, bush and all of a sudden two months later it's houses, roofs. Jesus. [01:22:02] Speaker A: What happened? [01:22:06] Speaker C: All right, I like this question. What's the favorite part of the job? [01:22:11] Speaker A: I never get bored. [01:22:12] Speaker C: You never get bored? Why is that? [01:22:14] Speaker A: Because I meet different people and dealing with the different pests every day and. [01:22:18] Speaker C: It'S Never the same issue with the job. [01:22:20] Speaker A: Yeah, be the same. [01:22:21] Speaker C: Yeah, interesting same Paul. [01:22:25] Speaker B: Yeah, same similar thing. You know, every, every day is a different issue. And it's. Although they kind of run a pattern, you never know what to expect. Every time you crack that long hatch, you just don't know what you're gonna see. And it's, it kind of just gives you that little bit of inspiration. Well, what we got on our hands today, you know, rather than the nine to five kind of back, back to the grind. [01:22:54] Speaker C: Yeah, no, that's good. Now, any red flags in a renovated property that someone should look out for? Yeah, Carly's got one. [01:23:04] Speaker A: Make sure they do have a termite management system done. [01:23:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:23:07] Speaker A: And if they're not done, it's a completely weakness for the building itself. For example, we have 100 years old building standing building. There's no problem with the termites so far. And all of a sudden six months time they done the kitchen renovation, they dug up all the concrete or the wooden stamps, all that and put the new concrete slab. And that's the penetration where they start. That's where the termite is coming because they have the 100 years old tree next door to it. They also definitely have the termites. That is the disturbance of the land brought all the termites back to the cupboards as well. Within six months, all the timber's gone. [01:23:43] Speaker C: Paul. [01:23:46] Speaker B: What is the question again? [01:23:49] Speaker C: Any red flags in a renovated property? [01:23:52] Speaker B: Yes, if the, if it's got a new tin roof basically and it's been converted from tile to tin, that the tie downs are all covered because people can think that they can just switch from tile to tin and it's just not that simple. [01:24:10] Speaker C: That's something that I, since we last spoke, that's something that I look out for now actually that's. [01:24:16] Speaker A: Most people think it's easier to convert into, but it's totally different. Story 100. [01:24:21] Speaker C: All right, next question. Best way for buyers can prepare for your visit. [01:24:27] Speaker A: Contacting us by I don't know. [01:24:29] Speaker C: So before you walk up to the property, what's the best way for that night? I think you mentioned maybe K keep one of the insects so that you know what you're dealing with. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, yep. [01:24:41] Speaker B: Paul, do you mean sellers? Because we're always saying sellers when we turn up. [01:24:47] Speaker C: Say that again. [01:24:48] Speaker B: We're always saying a selling party when we turn up. [01:24:52] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, definitely. All right. And finish this sentence a smart buyer always. [01:25:00] Speaker A: Got for quality professionals. [01:25:03] Speaker B: And Paul gets building inspection. [01:25:05] Speaker C: Gets a building inspection. All right. I still Think we got another 12 minutes if you. We've got another few more question. Do you want to run this, Carly? Okay. All right, let me just pass this on. Hang on. Over again. Let's mix all the best ones. [01:25:18] Speaker D: All right, we'll swap on over again. Oh, we're in extra time. Bonus rapid fire questions. Here we go. All right. What is one thing that buyers do to make your jobs harder, if at all? [01:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah. The buyers can not engaging the professionals or not giving the right people's contact number. That makes a big difference. [01:25:44] Speaker D: Or even like you coming in after a pest inspection has been done and then it turns out that there was live termites. [01:25:52] Speaker A: That case is totally different story. [01:25:54] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. Would be. [01:25:55] Speaker A: Would be definitely that need to be dealt. I have to be responsible for it. First of all, to start with, you gotta admit that he done something that he missed out. He didn't do the inspection properly or something that happened. We missed. You know, manual people can make a mistake. Then only then we can rectify what the damage happened and then move forward from there. [01:26:15] Speaker D: Definitely. Paul. [01:26:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:19] Speaker B: Incorrect details is a big one. Especially when you ask them to supply the address of the property they're purchasing and they supply their own address. And then you're looking at your job and you're like, it doesn't look like that. [01:26:32] Speaker C: No. There you go. [01:26:38] Speaker D: Must have been April Fool's that day. If you could inspect any famous building, which would it be? Australia or international? Oh, if you could obviously work internationally. [01:26:50] Speaker A: Opera House. [01:26:51] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, that'd be a nice one. Yeah. [01:26:53] Speaker A: Yeah, that'd be cool. I would say. [01:27:01] Speaker B: The Tottenham Hotspur stadium in the uk. [01:27:06] Speaker D: There you go. All right. What is a myth about building or pest inspections that you would love to burst? [01:27:16] Speaker A: Jarrah. Our house is made full of jarrah. Thomas doesn't eat well Jarrah. That's a big myth in the industry. Most of the people think, yeah, because the house is built of timber. Jarrah. So they think Tamas doesn't eat timber. Customers take you back to the wood. Wood or forest and think about the natural chainsaw who does all this timber bringing back to the soil. Tamar does it. [01:27:43] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:27:44] Speaker A: So what difference between, you know, timber and log of timber in the forest, you know. [01:27:50] Speaker D: No, of course. Paul, what about yourself? [01:27:52] Speaker B: What's this? The question again. [01:27:54] Speaker D: What's a myth about building inspections that you'd love to burst? [01:27:58] Speaker B: Oh, building inspectors don't know what they're talking about. I just put stuff on their report to fill their report out. [01:28:07] Speaker E: Oh, we're coming for you. [01:28:09] Speaker D: What is one Inspection deal breaker that you'd walk away from. Obviously not rats. We've covered that one. [01:28:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Major cockroach infestation problems. [01:28:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:28:20] Speaker A: Social housing is big problem in a high amount of cockroach infestation. I don't know how people live in those properties. Sometimes make his girl walking in there. It's a hard one. [01:28:32] Speaker D: What about yourself, Paul? [01:28:33] Speaker B: I've done some pretty, pretty bad inspections of bad properties, but the cockroach is definitely not pleasant. To be searching for termites in a cockroach infested home is not nice. [01:28:50] Speaker D: Yeah. I can definitely say I've seen a few inspections where that has come up. And even just the photos, I'm like, oh, no. Yeah, absolutely not. [01:29:00] Speaker B: Really not nice. [01:29:01] Speaker D: All right, lightning round. If you weren't doing this job, what would you be doing? [01:29:06] Speaker A: Good question. [01:29:10] Speaker D: I feel like it'd be something outdoors for you. [01:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I would love to. Camping and fishing would be nice. [01:29:17] Speaker D: Nomad. [01:29:18] Speaker A: Oh, definitely. I like to apply. Fly airplanes. [01:29:22] Speaker D: Yep. [01:29:22] Speaker A: Or helicopter Cincinnatis. [01:29:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:29:25] Speaker A: Fascinating thing that I can do. [01:29:27] Speaker D: Nice. Paul, what about yourself? [01:29:29] Speaker B: Probably still be building, to be honest. [01:29:30] Speaker D: Yep. [01:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Just running a building company. [01:29:33] Speaker D: Yep. Well, you are a registered builder, so that would make sense. You fall back onto, you know, the other hat, but. Yeah, no, that's perfect. That's excellent. [01:29:41] Speaker C: So take a look. [01:29:42] Speaker D: You. Yes, of course. And we're back to Josh. We'll switch over in just a sec. [01:29:48] Speaker C: All right, well, we're about towards the end of our round. Thank you very much, both of you again. So, Joe, if our listeners were to want to do pest inspection, how would they contact you? [01:29:59] Speaker A: They can contact us on our mobile, 0473-416-16116 or they can just simply submit their details into our website. Website or social media these days is very common. Anyone can reach out on Instagram or Facebook. Apart from that. Yeah. Just to have a conversation over the phone. It's easier for us to understand more of the best problems within their property and then we can also give them a directly time and scheduling as well as the. What can be done for them as well. [01:30:29] Speaker C: Excellent. I think you did mention that you're also happy that obviously if they've got any questions, questions, they're happy to kind of reach out and answer, isn't it? Yeah. All right. [01:30:38] Speaker A: I love talking to people as well. Understanding their situation, real situations. [01:30:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:30:42] Speaker A: That way we can. We are prepared for that job and we got the gear ready for it. [01:30:47] Speaker C: No, I appreciate it. I think it was very good discussion today and I think I really liked all the things that you talked about. I think we could have probably gone more. Isn't it, into this. Maybe we'll do another one. We'll have both of you back in again and. Yeah, and Carly. And Carly. Obviously we'll have to get Carly in. Maybe we'll get Carlos to go back on another holiday or something since he seems to be doing that quite a bit recently. If you're listening, Carlos, he knows he can trust you. And Paul, how can our listeners listen to you? Listen to you, I mean, contact you. Yes. There you go. [01:31:23] Speaker B: You can call the office on 64005858 or via the website on the contact forms. [01:31:30] Speaker C: Excellent. So again, appreciate it. Thank you so much for coming in. [01:31:34] Speaker A: Say something, Josh. We are on the hunt for looking for a new technician. Our team as well. If any listeners out there. I have a pest control licensed, personal or anyone knows about. Anyone has a. Anyone looking for a new job role. We're happy to accommodate them as well. [01:31:50] Speaker C: All right, Amazing. Thank you so much. Again, thank you so much both. Both for coming in. And Carly, you don't have a. I'll get Joe to pass the mic over to you. [01:32:01] Speaker D: You're doing a Kanye. Let me just stop you for a second. [01:32:06] Speaker C: Well, it was a good show, isn't it? I think it was really good. Obviously, you know, they're part of our BNI groups as well. We like and trust them and they've obviously worked with lots of our clients. Clients as well and done amazing job for them. [01:32:21] Speaker D: Definitely. [01:32:21] Speaker C: And it's always people that we would like to put out there, isn't it? [01:32:26] Speaker D: That's right. Especially when you are in, in a group like bni and I know that we bang on about it a fair bit, but it really does work. You put the, the right connections out. You. You do the, the necessary of what you need to. It's. It's definitely something that works. So I'll do a bit of a shout out for being NICE SUCCESS. 9:30 Friday mornings. [01:32:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:32:48] Speaker D: We are looking for trades. We have no tradies in our group, so we'd love to have you down. Feel free to reach out to the. The brothers. [01:32:57] Speaker C: Yes. [01:32:57] Speaker D: And they can point you in the right direction. But make sure that that's my guest. [01:33:02] Speaker C: No guarantees there. [01:33:04] Speaker D: But no, we, we definitely do need some tradies in the room. We've got a stack of referrals for you. So yeah, feel free to reach out. We can definitely hook you up or even if any profession really, unless the seat's already taken but yeah, anybody that has a business would like to grow. Come on down. [01:33:21] Speaker C: So, Kali, how can listeners contact you if they do need a settlement agent? [01:33:25] Speaker D: Yep. So they can contact Alpha Conveyancing. And so my email address is Carly C A r l y alphaconveyancing.com or by phone 937-15005. And I am on the website now, so go check that out. [01:33:43] Speaker C: Yes, we did see that. [01:33:44] Speaker D: Yeah. No, that's how they can contact me. [01:33:47] Speaker C: Excellent. And myself a bias agent. So anyone needing to buy a property out there, obviously you can contact me. Joshua Anthony. Well, not my name is Joshua Anthony. My email. My email is hellooshuanthony.com au and my phone number is 041981-5575. I think, Carly, you've done amazing job. [01:34:10] Speaker D: Thank you. [01:34:11] Speaker C: Maybe we may need to change it up a bit. Normal Carlos. I think we've got a good song for Carlos over there. And if you're listening, Carlos, this song is dedicated for you. It's called Bye Bye Bye. It's from the latest movie, Deadpool 3. And anyway, thank you for having me. Yeah, no worries. It's been a good week, everyone have a good week. And thank you. Signing off from the Perth Property Bros. [01:34:40] Speaker B: More music, better mental health. Only on IPL Radio.